Lords of the Ring

[innovation_station]

hi joe and all

i should try it but i first must build a proper coil plus i have no fets i have just 1 tube and will hopefully be finding more tubes but i have a questioin wich has probaly  been cleared up already but im not sure  in the sm 17 in the center what way does it go  does it transmit from the center out and collect around the big ring or does it transmit in from the big ring to the small coils in the center or can it go both ways at the same time?

or is it somthing all togather diffrent   then that?

is

[innovation_station]

 


the more and more i read the more i have to ask funny thing

hummm


tpu = saturatable reactor?

and a cascade ampiflyer ?  (sum of all adds up to output) of 1 ?

it seam as tho we can use verry low current dc to control huge current ac this tells me that output of the tpu is bridge rectifed b4 output to light bulb this also tells me that all collectors are ac and all controls are dc so can we think of the tpu as an hi freq ac generator retificed to dc ?

i was also reading some where that the bemf can be harnessed and made to add to the emf with the use of 2 more diodes so we can basicly re dirrect the bemf and dump it in with the emf can that be done? or did i mis understand what i was reading  i will look agin and try and find where i read that  if that is the case  then could the bemf run along with the oppsite ring dirrection as where it came from  what i mean is this with the negitive pluse and spike of say the top ring can we seperate that and add it to the neg pluse and spike of the bottom ring and then do the same with the positive spike of the bottom ring and add it too the positive of the top ring or the opsite polaritys to cancel out each other likr neg from top to pos of bottom and the reverace with the others im talking of bemf here the reasion i say this is because of the 2 dirrections of rotation the bemf should be traveling the right dirrection to add to the opsoite ring does that make any sence? or are we trying to get rid of bemf all togather?

is

also i found in my junk a motor controler like what they talk of in the mag amp book to dimm lights ot slow motors down here is a pic of it  is ti a mag amp or is more of a dimmer switch ?


i got this a year or so ago have not played with it but i thought when i got it that i might some time try to power it backwards  and see if it would put out useable power from a lower voltage source agin i have not got to that yet so maybe i will take it apart and see how it works first i will post a pic of taken apart i want to look at how it is wound

[innovation_station]

hello all

gk im not trying to flood your thred with usless junk but im still a little lost

i was digging through some of my past coils i have many many of them might take a pic some time of them to show you all but i found in there a coil that brought back some past intrest  so i will post a pic of it and now gk could you explain the what was ment by your quote those are the remifications that top this entire  project here is a pic of the ring you said that about and what it did was switch dc to ac at dubble the voltage and the same amparage it has 2 steel welding wires wraped in it as 2 more collectors along with a bifullar pancake coil it only produces thease results when it was hooked up a special way

gk can you add any thoughts to this coil ?

william

[giantkiller]

@IS,

I see there is not only copper but steel running in parallel perpendicular in two separate paths. I suspect that the copper generated magnetic fields do not align on the matching Poynting axis' but that the steel runs generate a mag field from a dc biasing of perpendicular directions allowing the activity from one set of copper runs to couple to the other set of copper runs through the ferrous properties of the steel. No?

Try firing the pancake directions inward and outward in relation to the center.

Pretty simple coil. That looks like the Marco's Helmholtz coils. I have copper in 45d windings. I could replace the copper with steel and do the same with mine. But vacation calls. Chesapeake bay area family reunion. Too way cool to not be involved. I will stay touch with OU via PDA.

I do wait for you to reply though.

--giantkiller.

[innovation_station]

gk this was one of the first coils i build a wile ago it came from turbos ring

but i thought i would post it agin and see if anyone has anything to say about it i will have to try and pluse it like you said gk

i think the steel is important  and must be in the tpu  this ring was 1 of 3 and it was intended to be the collector for output the other 2 rings have no steel in them only copper i have not hooked up to my scope yet but i plan on doing so

gk what would the effects be if you used gk4 with 2 steel rings and 1 center copper ring ?

what i mean is bottom ring steel wire 1 wire top the same center collector bifolor copper lamp wire

@ joe your  done  humm could mean a few things  

ok all been reading agin but this time what have been covered by us so far
and i have decided to build a new ring

im collecting materials today will start to build tonight

it will be the gk4  with 2 garden wire colectors and 1 copper collector i might build a few diffrent collectors (center ones)
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