Lords of the Ring

[bolt]

I'm very interested in Ottos mishap where can i read more about this? Can you point me to the right spot in the forum i searched but cant find it.

I been thinking more about this TPU theory and i have something else to think about. The large TPU bangs out about 800 volts. So im thinking this is = to one revolution of the virtual magnet cuts across 800 windings of the output coil is roughly = 800 volts by  800 turns = 1 volt per winding.

We know the frequncy hash on the DC is about 5000 Hz. So 5000 / 800 turns = 6.25 so there is some rounding off here. How about really the rotation is fixed and is the constant i was looking for the other day as it exist in all TPU's no matter what size. Now we have the 7.3 Hz our magical earth resonance  * 800 turns = 5840 Hz   This is the same as a generator of a crank speed of 438 RPM.  To get power out at this low speed means really heavy primary windings.

OK so far i think this looks good so why not make the output something more useful like  110 volts? So the large tpu is said to do about 1 amp maybe a little more but 1 is good. 800 volts * 1 amp = 800 watts. or the current flowing through the primary collector coil is 800 amps at 1 volt!  Crikey the collector coil in the large tpu must be the size of car battery jump cables.  Not quite though. I can see a trade off here with coupling and loading but the collector coils im sure consist of a few turns at least lets say 10 turn for the primary. In that case i think the current is reduced by a factor of 10 also so the primary collector now has to handle 80 amps at 0.1 volts per winding which should add up to 1 volt at 800 amps but now dissipated through out the primary collector coil.

So at 110 volts needs 110 turns on output coil watts 800/110 = 7.27 amps which is going to make that 800 turns of thin stuff pretty hot so there is an advantage to run the TPU with higher output voltages to overcome internal resistances of the windings when fully loaded.

The small tpu is said to be 100 watts at around 100 volts = 1 amp. If the wire ratio is true then the primary is supporting 100 amps at 1 volt over 10 tens. Or 10 amps per turn. The vid shots show this cable looks like 14 strand hook up wire so 10 amps seems ok to me.

Anyway im sure someone who knows the math properly can work all this out but more of the jigsaw when we can work out wire thickness and expected power handling between stages.

[giantkiller]

I'm very interested in Ottos mishap where can i read more about this? Can you point me to the right spot in the forum i searched but cant find it.

I been thinking more about this TPU theory and i have something else to think about. The large TPU bangs out about 800 volts. So im thinking this is = to one revolution of the virtual magnet cuts across 800 windings of the output coil is roughly = 800 volts by  800 turns = 1 volt per winding.

We know the frequncy hash on the DC is about 5000 Hz. So 5000 / 800 turns = 6.25 so there is some rounding off here. How about really the rotation is fixed and is the constant i was looking for the other day as it exist in all TPU's no matter what size. Now we have the 7.3 Hz our magical earth resonance  * 800 turns = 5840 Hz   This is the same as a generator of a crank speed of 438 RPM.  To get power out at this low speed means really heavy primary windings.

OK so far i think this looks good so why not make the output something more useful like  110 volts? So the large tpu is said to do about 1 amp maybe a little more but 1 is good. 800 volts * 1 amp = 800 watts. or the current flowing through the primary collector coil is 800 amps at 1 volt!  Crikey the collector coil in the large tpu must be the size of car battery jump cables.  Not quite though. I can see a trade off here with coupling and loading but the collector coils im sure consist of a few turns at least lets say 10 turn for the primary. In that case i think the current is reduced by a factor of 10 also so the primary collector now has to handle 80 amps at 0.1 volts per winding which should add up to 1 volt at 800 amps but now dissipated through out the primary collector coil.

So at 110 volts needs 110 turns on output coil watts 800/110 = 7.27 amps which is going to make that 800 turns of thin stuff pretty hot so there is an advantage to run the TPU with higher output voltages to overcome internal resistances of the windings when fully loaded.

The small tpu is said to be 100 watts at around 100 volts = 1 amp. If the wire ratio is true then the primary is supporting 100 amps at 1 volt over 10 tens. Or 10 amps per turn. The vid shots show this cable looks like 14 strand hook up wire so 10 amps seems ok to me.

Anyway im sure someone who knows the math properly can work all this out but more of the jigsaw when we can work out wire thickness and expected power handling between stages.

Otto blew up an Oscope and other equipment. Ronotte went up to seem him with a replacement scope. I can't remember the date

[ronotte]

@Bolt,

that's just my nightmare as From ECD I do obtain easily more then 800VDC (actually my windings are sparking between layers...)..but no more than 70W from a 230V lamp either in the Mobius DC pulsed way (between Phase & Zero points) or from a full floating secondary winding after rectification (Shotky bridge) and Capacitor levelling.

I tried in every way to change the 'copper' on coils but......as long as you put more turns.....you are going to have no 90 degrees coupling but rather only capacitance coupling!!.

Roberto

[ronotte]

 

[bolt]

forget about the 90 degree effect in the TPU its doesn't apply.  Its true however that if you have 800 turns and you drive it with 12 volts square waves you will see 2000 or 3000 volts easily.