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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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tao

Quote from: EMdevices on September 15, 2007, 11:33:17 AM
Thanks for that link AM,  I watched the first video and enjoyed it.   I saw this demo years ago in one of my physics classes, very interesting how it works.

Here's something else to think about guys, if you want to pursue the Schumann thing.   

1)  Take two coils of EQUAL lengths.

2)  Take two capacitors of EQUAL value

Now you have two resonating TANK circuits of EQUAL frequency.

3)  Start to cut one of the coils small piece at a time, untill the resonating frequency is off by.... you guessed it.... 7.3 Hz  :)

Then, the tank circuits will be exicted by the natural magnetic Schumann resonance, but feed one output to the other for some additon of signals and feedback, the output might just go through the roof !!

EM



Not that I want to feed this line of reasoning, the schumann, since I feel other things might be involved. But, I won't desregard it as a solution either...

So, to lend evidence to your statement there EMDevices, "Start to cut one of the coils small piece at a time, untill the resonating frequency is off by.... you guessed it.... 7.3 Hz"


Well, that caught my attention, mainly because there was a snippet from an email sent back in the 90s about SM's device and it talked about cutting until resonance...

Here is the snippet:

"Email received later
and arrangements have just been made to share it:

Patrick,

[snip]  He wanted US$25 million up front for the secret.
We are aware of the concept and have been designing our own
version [snip]. He is VERY paranoid about publicity; [snip].

The outer toroidal coil overheats and has no magic factors inside it other
than a length of the coil which is cut until resonance is established.
In
the core of this outer toroidal coil is the instrument package. A magnet
is used and a resonance is established using the mechanical (Lorentz) forces
developed in the coil. The system pulses with a DC component.

Tuning is a function of the coil mass and cross-sectional aspect ratio. It
appears an elliptical cross-section is required in the coil. The converter
package in the center of the toridal coil appears to be a circuit to
convert the pulsed DC component to AC.

This whole device is a low-voltage, low frequency, high-current form of the
high-voltage, high frequency, low current Moray device. Each system has its
good and bad points....

We are working very hard to develop a working model ASAP. We have enough
funding and adequate lab facilities [snip]. When and if we have a
good working prototype and adequate stocks for immediate market penetration
we will let you know. We have a plan which is diametrically opposed to what
might be expected [snip]

Be patient and use the clues we have shared with you....

Your friends ...[snip]"



Now, I am posting this, only for historical means, meaning, I don't want to start huge debates on the other elements on that email snippet. Mainly, the issue of cutting to resonance, and the potential that this snippet might very well help you attempting the Schumann approach.

Although, one could use the approach in that snippet, without the Schumann too...........

EMdevices

bolt, you might be saying very good things, but I can't visualize what you're saying too well.

Can you draw up a circuit?Ã, Ã,  A picture is worth a thousand words !!!

EM

Edit:Ã,  thanks for that posting tao,Ã,  Ã, do you think these people made a typo?Ã,  " ..In
the core of this outer toroidal coil is the instrument package....
"Ã,  Ã,  Ã, I think they meant to say CENTER ,not CORE.  :)

dutchy1966

Hi Bolt,

Thanks for your explanation. I like your theory, if only for the fact that it is based on SINE waves. Although SM is probably not allowed to mention siinewaves, there are so many occasions where he hints at it. Just look at how he stresses to find the right Cord (Chord). If that isn't pointing to three harmonically related sines.....

I have a suggestion for you. It might be good for the general understanding to make a little drawing of how you see things working at the moment.

Thanks

Robert

bolt

Bear in mind as i just said you can from one to 3 or 4 collectors and this was causing me so much grief till i realized why so snipping bits of between the collectors is not whats needed to produce a difference. However lets say i have just one collector. I stated in previous posts the resonance of the collector is most likely linked to 7.5 Hz. If it is then it will 3.999 meters long and taking a tad over a snipped down till its tuned. The harmonic length of the collector wll not change from a 4 inch tpu to  18 inch across only the frequencies applied to the control coils will change but the wire will still be 3.999 meters long  due to the time it take for one pulse wave to be parasitically forced around the collector. clearly there is a ratio formula that can be applied to any tpu. So you find the first fundamental resonance frequncy for the 1st control coil maybe use a grid dip oscillator. Then i will know without trying what my second and third harmonics should be without spending hours twiddling.

bolt

Well im into my 3rd week doing this and as an RF engineer only sine waves made sense within reading just 8 posts and SM's document. There is no logic here with any other type of wave.......none.  Its very likely not to any form of switching and timing because the loop is self timing and self oscillating by its own dynamics. If i were to provide any degree of active timing it means my control box is now forming an active part of the loop and current is flowing though my fets. There is no need to do that with this. The sig gen box is like a starter motor on a car. I start it then i can remove the car battery and starter motor and it will still run!