Lords of the Ring

[CTG Labs]

Hi,

These spikes are created by electrostatic coupling.  Everyone knows there is no magnetic coupling at 90 degrees, but we also know there is electrostatic coupling.  There is no mythical longitudinal EM waves involved to make this?!

I am just not sure what advancement has been made?  Those spikes are what we have all seen while testing and are due to known capacitive coupling.

GK, are you able to confirm any weight loss or the gyroscopic feel?  Have you been able to perform the power in to heat out test?


Regards,

D.

[FatBird]

First, I think we all should give GIANT Kudos to GK for his perseverance in his work & for sharing his findings, diagrams, photos, & work with the world.

I am just a dumb ?newby? here, but it looks like Otto?s schematic is flawed (shorted out).  No offense Otto.  I strongly suspect that this is why GK?s TPU is over heating.

If you look close at Otto?s diagram:

1.  There isn?t any Collector Power output terminals to attach a Load to.  SM?s units did have Load Terminals where he connected light bulbs, etc.

2.   The Collector Wires on all 3 Coils (Top, Middle, & Bottom) are all feeding other Control Wires & other Collector wires.  It appears to me that all of the Collected Power is ?backing up? & is being expended on the TPU itself, thus causing overheating & a possible dangerous condition.


Just a dumb ?newby? trying to help out.
Regards.


.

[EMdevices]

I'm with you ctglabs,Ã,  no offence GK but the results seem to be "ordinary".Ã,  You have done good work though, nice coil and set up.

The spikes posted by GK are from powering and then turning off a coil, and we see the kickback which builds the high voltage spike.Ã, 

What are the unusual phenomena though?Ã,  Is it strange vibrations?Ã,  Is it striking some sort of resonance that makes everything shake?Ã,  Is it heat?

I know you're excited GK,Ã,  but for the advancement of the art, let's approach one observation at a time and investigate it in detail.

EM

[Hoppy]

GK and all!

Please forgive me if I am being dumb here, as you know I am no expert in these things.

You just said you are putting 300 watts in and you have heat?

Am I the only one who thinks this is an expected result?  What have I missed and what has been discovered here?  I am assuming something has been because you are all very excited, perhaps its gone over my head?  Someone please educate me!


Regards,

Dave.

I too am not surprised by this heat generated. It's not difficult to make a 40W or 60W light bulb glow using this amount of wire with a 'hot' air cored transformer using an 8 amp 12V supply and pulsed current. I've done it several times.

When someone does eventually get the lamp to glow don't take too much notice of what your amp meters are reading as load current because we hopefully all know the difficulties in accurately measuring pulsed DC current in complex waveforms. However the heat is a good guide and the hotter your TPU becomes, the more current you will be pulling from the PSU - no kidding. The magic happens when you can reduce the input current and maintain the lamp glowing. I've not done it yet but I live in hope that it can be done as we all do. SM has either got his running on little / nothing or pure bulls....Time will tell.

[starcruiser]

All,

Well it sounds to me that at 3.4Khz he is drawing .61 amps from a 12vdc source, this works out to be 7.32 watts with an output of 130V. The next test is can we use this 130v to power anything?

@GK,

I tried to replicate your experiement but have not gotten any real results so far. I am reviewing my signal sources and thinking I need to replace my output transistors. I put 100 ohm resistors for biasing the transistors and put in a 100 ohm (1/2 watt) for current limiting (this is from the positive rail to the feedback coil). Current is limited to less than 370mA at its worst. The 100 ohm current limiting resistor gets warm (expected) but the kicks are less than 2vpp.

I will continue testing tonight after I change the drivers, this will allow me to increase the current to the TPU.

Test setup overview....

My test setup uses a 12vdc 5Ah battery with a DVM in series (using the 10A setting) to monitor the current draw.

My signal source is 3 dual 555 timer chips (NE556), only one clock is used at the moment. I planned on using the second clock for pulse shaping if required.

TImer 1 outputs from 2.8Khz to well over 6Khz

Timer 2 outputs from 28Khz upto 190Khz

Timer 3 outputs from 28Khz upto 190Khz

Driver transistors are used as GK and Otto have them wired (switched Ground) and the collector is connected to the signal points on Otto's TPU diagram. THe current limiting resistor is placed between the Feedback coil and the positive 12v rail.

Test point is between the control coil to feedback coil connect point and the negative rail. I am using a 13k resistor for a load, I may try a larger value later in my testing.

I am thinking my current test results are being affected by the TIP31 transistors, thus my change tonight to a faster and higher current device.

More to come