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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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Loki67671

GK,
I know! I know! I don't want you to be the only one.........lol.........but I have seen "kicks" on my scope using TPU_003 which is nothing more than 10AWG solid copper wire for the "core" and three layers of hookup wire bank wound. I was running my 555's on a breadboard and the consistency of results was not there. As a matter of fact I was seeing kicks when I made adjustments not when the device was left stable. I'm just trying to proove to myself that the concept is directly related to the frequencies not winding topology.
I will build TPU_005 using the iron wire core and the segmented control windings even if I achieve the results with these continuous windings. All of our results are of value.
I will get on the same sheet of music as you....as soon as I'm done with this solo.

edo,
Exactly along the line that I was thinking. Square waves are odd harmonics. Square waves have very steep rise and fall times. Doesn't that get modeled as an impulse function assuming the switching is fast enough? The idea of beating odd harmonics together that are themselves comprised of odd harmonics is interesting. Add to this three or more circuits whose resonant frequency is tuned at or very near these harmonic frequencies. I am definitely concentrating my efforts here until experimental evidence moves me away from it. I am putting together precision DDS synth's with phase control and carefully filtered individual supplies to replace my 555 oscillators. I'm also switching with fast  MOSFET's using gate drivers. I think its worth digging up some triodes.

I will update as I progress.

Regards,

JT
"When the water stinks, I break the dam, with Love I break it" .............Loki

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giantkiller

Quote from: Loki67671 on January 17, 2007, 08:30:29 PM
GK,
I know! I know! I don't want you to be the only one.........lol.........but I have seen "kicks" on my scope using TPU_003 which is nothing more than 10AWG solid copper wire for the "core" and three layers of hookup wire bank wound. I was running my 555's on a breadboard and the consistency of results was not there. As a matter of fact I was seeing kicks when I made adjustments not when the device was left stable. I'm just trying to proove to myself that the concept is directly related to the frequencies not winding topology.
I will build TPU_005 using the iron wire core and the segmented control windings even if I achieve the results with these continuous windings. All of our results are of value.
I will get on the same sheet of music as you....as soon as I'm done with this solo.

edo,
Exactly along the line that I was thinking. Square waves are odd harmonics. Square waves have very steep rise and fall times. Doesn't that get modeled as an impulse function assuming the switching is fast enough? The idea of beating odd harmonics together that are themselves comprised of odd harmonics is interesting. Add to this three or more circuits whose resonant frequency is tuned at or very near these harmonic frequencies. I am definitely concentrating my efforts here until experimental evidence moves me away from it. I am putting together precision DDS synth's with phase control and carefully filtered individual supplies to replace my 555 oscillators. I'm also switching with fast  MOSFET's using gate drivers. I think its worth digging up some triodes.

I will update as I progress.

Regards,

JT
I just fired up my GK3 - 20awg copper collectors @ 12v. I pull 5 amps and the field very small. I did this unit just so I wouldn't pull the Otto jumper configuration from my GK4. But alas tis as I expected. The 20awg doesn't cut with tip41b-s. But with the GK4 30awg magwire unit my transx just get warm and the field is ferocious & dangerous. And I dont think it is the iron core.
Not the core just gauge of the controllers.
In other words audio wire. I got that recommendation from another post.
If you look at certain Tesla patents. His input is fat CU. Out is small CU. That explains all  the hipower genrs. He pushing hard against CU.

So I got to rip into my GK4.
And this also, I will Otto jumper the GK3 first. This will prove a great many things. Fat CU TPU?

--giantkiller.

FuzzyLogic

GK.  Since you are the only one so far that has a working unit, may I HUMBLY request that you help the rest of us get up to speed also.  Could you PLEASE answer the following questions so we also can build a working unit like yours.  Thank you in advance sir.

I believe you said in an earlier post that the Diameter is about 6".


1.  _____  Number of turns on each Collector Coil.

2.  _____  Do your Collector Coils use Copper Wire or Garden Wire?

3.  _____  Do you use 3 or 4 Control Coils on each Level?

4.  _____  How many turns of wire on each Control Coil (approximately).

5.  _____  Does your Working Unit use Otto's Wiring Diagram exactly?  Any changes?

6.  _____  Will it run without magnets, or does it need magnets to run?

7.  _____  What frequencies does it run at (approximately)?

8.  _____  Anything else you can think of?


I think all of us have read your past warnings & admonitions as to its dangers, & that all of us have to take appropriate safety precautions like a Kill Switch, Over Temp Switch, possible safety shield, etc.

Thank you very much for sharing this with your fellow researchers sir.


.


giantkiller

Quote from: FuzzyLogic on January 18, 2007, 06:04:41 PM
GK.  Since you are the only one so far that has a working unit, may I HUMBLY request that you help the rest of us get up to speed also.  Could you PLEASE answer the following questions so we also can build a working unit like yours.  Thank you in advance sir.

I believe you said in an earlier post that the Diameter is about 6". oops 4".


1.  _doco____  Number of turns on each Collector Coil.

2.  __garden___  Do your Collector Coils use Copper Wire or Garden Wire?

3.  _doco____  Do you use 3 or 4 Control Coils on each Level?

4.  _doco____  How many turns of wire on each Control Coil (approximately). 30awg

5.  _xtact____  Does your Working Unit use Otto's Wiring Diagram exactly?  Any changes?
I use 16awg speaker wire for jumpers.

6.  _any____  Will it run without magnets, or does it need magnets to run?

7.  _any____  What frequencies does it run at (approximately)?

8.  _____  Anything else you can think of?


I think all of us have read your past warnings & admonitions as to its dangers, & that all of us have to take appropriate safety precautions like a Kill Switch, Over Temp Switch, possible safety shield, etc.

Thank you very much for sharing this with your fellow researchers sir.

Quote from: giantkiller on January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on January 07, 2007, 12:39:15 AM
Look through this thread. I believe everything is here.

I have GK3/Otto and that is copper core and 20awg controls. I test it tonight.

--giantkiller. Let me know.

Grumpy

Why so much current?  This is not an inductive coupling effect.  

No one here understands the radiant energy effect.  The only person that did - Turbo - was driven away.  

No wonder Bedini, Grey, Tasla, and the many others were so frustrated.  You can explain it 100 different ways and no one else can understand it.


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