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Lords of the Ring

Started by giantkiller, January 06, 2007, 11:53:14 PM

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innovation_station

thank you gk

im sure that clears up a hole bunch of stuff it makes plain sence to me any ways so guess what we need some stun gun circuits 2 in my opinion 1 gets 1 freq in 1 dirr and the other gets the other freq in the other all in the same control wire and mabe we need something to stop the power from going back in to the opsite stun guns when they fire

@gk can you show us a working ring yet ?  but i think you dont have to i think if people look a little bit harder at what has been written you all will find how to build the darn thing!!

remember to get it hot with a lot of noise!! and be careful

1 more thing i would like to say is PAUL YOU ROCK and i have said that many times b4


what about using a transformar backwards like otto said and pluse it send the output of the transformer through the control coils? what would happin would it not act like a stun gun?

and what if our upper collector and lower were the transformers made with 1 long wire and our center collector was made with 1 turn 700 strands #4 gage car power wire and what would happin if there was no connection between the top and bottom collector to the center 1 top and bottom togather like a folded figure 8

just thinking agin

thought i would share

is

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

weri812

@ gk

wont spark gaps  cause interferince with
other  radio receivers???

wer
PUT YOUR MIND IN GEAR BEFORE  YOU PUT YOUR MOUTH IN MOTION

giantkiller

Quote from: weri812 on May 10, 2007, 02:59:08 PM
@ gk

wont spark gaps  cause interferince with
other  radio receivers???

wer

And is there a problem with corrupting the status quo?
We are presently based on a antiquated infrastructure model that breeds war and poverty. Pure evil. What do you think the goal is here? ;)

--giantkiller. Things must change. Things are going to change. I glimpse eternity.

innovation_station

the interferience is 1 of the reasons this is not public also gk when you got your huge kicks and the rocket fell from the sky humm makes sence when i got big kicks from 1 of my first coils it drove my comp speekers crazy at 1 point when i had a magnet near my coil it made it sing and my speekers too!

is
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

gn0stik

Quote from: Grumpy on May 10, 2007, 02:46:47 PM
Quote from: gn0stik on May 10, 2007, 12:40:22 PM
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@Grumpy, Turbo is the same Turbo, who was Marco. I can confirm that, and if you have any problems with the proof have have Stefan tell you. No need for this squabbling.

As he said the old device was a Tesla MT. One transmitter, and one receiver. It didn't transmit very far. It didn't fit the SM model as he said, and explained very clearly, so he abandoned it. Are you saying he gave up on it too soon? If so, I sort of agree. SM DID say to Mannix about Tao, that he had the secret (do you think he knows it). Which is what Marco based his build on anyway.

However,  In Turbo's defense, tuning one side of an MT to the other, is not the same as tuning to the earth's magnetic field. Which of course, you are correct, anyone could do with enough wire. However that would be cost and time prohibitive. What is amazing is that the SM device seems to be producing HOT electricity. NOT cold electricity. Either that, or the energy is getting converted to HOT electricity very quickly within the operation of the TPU. The other thing that is amazing is that SM has tapped a nature source with such a SMALL device. One could also tap the Schumann frequencies easily with enough wire. However you'd need thousands of miles of wire for even a half or hundreds for a quarter wavelength. Again, not practical.

So, Marco(turbo), is asking the right questions. If the device's true operation is like the MT, then we need to know how to tune the receiver to the source in an efficient manner. If in fact you are saying he gave up to early.

Rich

I'll take your word for teh verification that Turbo is Turbo.  Like I mentioned , it doesn't really matter.  Yes, I feel that Turbo gave up too soon with the MT.  If the MT were packaged as a close system, you could take it anywhere.

SM said many things and it is difficult at best to decipher his meaning.  I too cling to the statement that Tao has the secret and this in itself slices through the BS and indicates that the TPU utilizes RE.  SM also stated that he was not positive that the device harnessed the Earth's gravitational field.  SM is definitely familiar with the works of Tesla.  As a side note, I have heard of people tapping the earth torsion grid and the power there is extremely great.  A device that just collects could be based upon this source.

Tesla indicated that impulse duration (pulse width and possibly rate of change) determined the effects that were manifest be the RE produced.  Long pulses produced heat.  Looking at SM's pictures and I see rather large capacitors and possibly modified chokes = slow impulse circuit.  There is also the possibility that SM's device converts the cold E to hot E, but I hold to the long pulse idea for now.

The rate that a signal propagates through a conductor can be greatly slowed.  This is a function of the impedence of the wire.  Raise the impedance and you slow the signal - now you need less wire.  

Guess what?  Tubes have a high impedence - they slow down propagation velocity.  When SM went from tubes to SS he could get the effect to manifest because the propagation was too damn fast. He would have needed a mile of wire.

Spark gap?  High impedance.

SM was an audio guy - I venture a guess that he modified the impedance of the drive circuits to slow the voltage impulse down so he could stop it before the current flowed and then the RE would manifest.

That PDF book - The Free Secrets of Cold Electricity mentions three different accounts of RE manifestation with three different devices: capacitor discharge, Ruhmkorff Coil, and Tesla's - all have a spark gap.

(EDIT - GK posted before I was finished typing)

There are three fields - not two! - three!!! The torsion field (tempic, scalar, etc.), the electric field, and the magnetic field.  RE = torsion field. The three fields are 90 degrees to each other, so in the center of a toroid is a torsion field.  When the electric impulse is stopped, the electrons of the wire have to return to their orientations, but they can't so this energy has to go somewhere and it dumps into the torsion field - comes out perp to the electric field - magnetic field never closed. Torsion field is linked to inertia, mass, time, space, etc.

Grumpy, AWESOME post. Yes, the impulse duration was the key to Tesla's work. And yes, I had forgotten this. Great observations on the TPU with the large caps and slow pulse conclusion. I agree whole heartedly. Makes perfect sense. So changing the pulse speed will change the characteristics, and even FUNCTION of the TPU, according to Vassilatos's and Lindemann's writing to a lesser degree. Another thing we have to keep in mind is that there can be NO AC. Although the anomalous energy is present with AC pulses it is trapped in the composite current.

Again, excellent post.