Lords of the Ring

[devilzangel]

YEP .. agree .. there is already a scientific method in place .. as Jdo300 says. .. and documentation is a very important part of it.

I also very much believe in not reinventing the wheel.

devilzangel
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   To All:
   As I am not really a hard hitter here, I am reluctant to post some of my feelings. Sometimes I feel what I have to say is not worth the bandwidth. I may find that it is just the complete opposite. This befalls many a forum and soon results in the demise of it. This started out as an idea based on some film clips. It has come so far from where it started. I still remember the look on the faces of three students here at the university. I was given a couple of hours play time in the electronics lab. I proved 90 degree coupleing in a coil. They could not accept the fact it happened and with a gain of 3 as well

   Anyhow what I would like to ask if its ok is to have all of us adopt some sort of standard of the way we do things. If you do an experiment, no matter what it is as long as it follows along with what we are doing, post it and all the parameters with results. I think a new thread just for it should be made say LOTR-EXP or something such to label it. When one is working in a research facility, there are strict guide lines by which they proceed. Above all, open and up front for us all to see and muse on and add to, change and redo. That makes it easy to progress forward.

Hope a flame suit is not in order for this post but really had to say it.

sugra

[gn0stik]

   To All:
   As I am not really a hard hitter here, I am reluctant to post some of my feelings. Sometimes I feel what I have to say is not worth the bandwidth. I may find that it is just the complete opposite. This befalls many a forum and soon results in the demise of it. This started out as an idea based on some film clips. It has come so far from where it started. I still remember the look on the faces of three students here at the university. I was given a couple of hours play time in the electronics lab. I proved 90 degree coupleing in a coil. They could not accept the fact it happened and with a gain of 3 as well

   Anyhow what I would like to ask if its ok is to have all of us adopt some sort of standard of the way we do things. If you do an experiment, no matter what it is as long as it follows along with what we are doing, post it and all the parameters with results. I think a new thread just for it should be made say LOTR-EXP or something such to label it. When one is working in a research facility, there are strict guide lines by which they proceed. Above all, open and up front for us all to see and muse on and add to, change and redo. That makes it easy to progress forward.

Hope a flame suit is not in order for this post but really had to say it.

sugra

Ditto.

I agree, wholeheartedly.

A standard that people go by.

No bounce, no play.

If we're not sharing out most relevent research, why share anything. The rest is just lip service.

Nice list Jason, I like.

I am trying to compile Otto's posts into something coherent as we speak, I liked your suggestion before in the master thread.

@GK, thanks, but I wasn't offended by your words, it was the attitude behind them. I think you are an exceptional researcher, and a very "nose to the grindstone" type of student. I appreciate that. But it's all for nothing, when cast in the "for your own good, I withhold" light, that the govt, likes to shine on us. We're big kids. We can handle it. And ya know what? If someone loses a finger, it'll only happen once.

Regards all.

Rich

[gn0stik]

For those of you who didn't benefit from that conversation.

SM talks about sending two curents down a wire at the same time, in different directions.

What happens when you have two pulses going down a coil at the same time? In one direction they add right? In opposite directions, do they cancel? Well, yes and no.

The pulses have a polarity, they are opposite as both are fired in different directions. As they pass each-other, think of the polarities. You get a positive and a negative passing each-other at two points along the wire. As they reach the same spot in a wire, what do you get?

Well, what do you get when you take say, a battery, and Ohhh, I dunno, a set of jumper cables, then touch the positive and negative terminals together for a brief moment? (sound familiar?)

You get a short. (and a kick)

Now referring back to Tao's (I think he's got it, do you think he knows?) post, he says "you stop the current before it can reach the end of the wire", but how can one do that? Hmmmmm???

Food for thought.  So, there ya go.

Rich

[devilzangel]

Now referring back to Tao's (I think he's got it, do you think he knows?) post, he says "you stop the current before it can reach the end of the wire", but how can one do that? Hmmmmm???

Food for thought.  So, there ya go.

Rich

i think (and some of the R&D peeps may have already thought on this line of thought) thats what the rotating mag field is used for (if we cant physically stop the current when it reaches a point, we can create the same effect via weaving multiple frequencies in such a way as to create a short .. but those shorts are rotating around the coil, thus the turbine affect... it is like creating a steady domino effect of the kicks in circles .. kind of like the Escher staircase.

u know, sometimes if u view a rotating wheel, and when it gets to a certain frequency (RPM), it will LOOK like it is spinning the other way??

devilzangel
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[gn0stik]

ding ding ding ding ding....

You got it boss. That's exactly correct. The shorts take place in successively different physical locations around the ring. Hence you get large magnetic waves expanding and collapsing with very, very short rise and fall times.

However, Otto's work seems like it's the way to go for now, and I'm not sure how he's approaching this.

Also, it could work by pulsing in the same direction as well, you wouldn't have to pulse it in opposite directions. Same direction you would get a single short per combined cycle, instead of two. If you follow my meaning. Just visualize the polarities.

So this translates to what Otto is doing as well.

Regards,
Rich