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Acoustical feedback energy system

Started by aleks, December 10, 2020, 11:00:51 AM

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aleks

Quote from: Willy on April 17, 2023, 08:21:28 AM
incomplete quote

Question 1-Aleks, why don't you give us a detailed explanation and diagrams ?

Question 2 -Aleks, Why do you suppose that the electrons should "run out" in a vacuum any more so  than they  "run out" on earth ?
I'm presenting a "mind experiment in vacuum". It's much harder to visualize running out electrons on earth, because body of earth is massive, and the electrons may remain under gravity force. But in vacuum there's no external mass, no source of electrons, and plenty of surrounding uncharged space to run out under mutual repelling force. Note that a satellite usually gets its power via solar panels, and the electromagnetic energy is not a source of electrons, at least in common understanding. Electromagnetic energy does cause charge to accumulate in atoms, but this requires nearby free electrons.

aleks

Quote from: Willy on April 17, 2023, 08:21:28 AM
Aleks, I have to agree with Wesley in that it is apparent, that most of your statements
here are nonsense.
What exact element contributes to your feeling of nonsense? Speaking in general does not contribute anything except confusion. Tell me what causes your misunderstanding, I'll elaborate.

Willy

Quote from: aleks on April 17, 2023, 08:36:43 AM
I'm presenting a "mind experiment in vacuum". It's much harder to visualize running out electrons on earth, because body of earth is massive, and the electrons may remain under gravity force. But in vacuum there's no external mass, no source of electrons, and plenty of surrounding uncharged space to run out under mutual repelling force. Note that a satellite usually gets its power via solar panels, and the electromagnetic energy is not a source of electrons, at least in common understanding. Electromagnetic energy does cause charge to accumulate in atoms, but this requires nearby free electrons.

I'm fine with people doing mind experiments.

" the electrons may remain under gravity force"
It is true that under vacuum, events such as phase change, i.e. ice sublimating to vapor
or freeze drying occurs.

Are you suggesting that we should therefore, expect the bodies of space craft to evaporate
while under vacuum as well ?

"and the electromagnetic energy is not a source of electrons, at least in common understanding"

Research   photo electric effect   .  This is what Einstein received the Nobel prize for (not
the theory of relativity).

aleks

Quote from: Willy on April 17, 2023, 08:54:47 AM
Are you suggesting that we should therefore, expect the bodies of space craft to evaporate
while under vacuum as well ?
Why are you thinking this? Atoms are fine, they attract to each other and retain form in vacuum. I'm talking ONLY about free electrons that are required for electricity to work.

Quote from: Willy on April 17, 2023, 08:54:47 AM
Research   photo electric effect   .  This is what Einstein received the Nobel prize for (not
the theory of relativity).

"The emission of electrons from a metal plate caused by light quanta – photons." Electrons are assumed to be pre-existent when photon hits a metal plate. It's absolutely not the transformation of EM energy into photons. Things turn even funnier if you consider photo-electric effect.

Willy

Quote from: aleks on April 17, 2023, 08:39:26 AM
What exact element contributes to your feeling of nonsense? Speaking in general does not contribute anything except confusion. Tell me what causes your misunderstanding, I'll elaborate.

Research   photo electric effect   .  This is what Einstein received the Nobel prize for (not
the theory of relativity).

Science, for the very most part has very specific definitions for the words used in it.

Even so I often find that, when ever I have investigated those definitions to a deep
enough level, even they become pretty well nonsensical. In fact many of the great minds
of science have had essentially the same thing to say about this (which is some what comforting).

It remains however that Newton's observations as to why a baseball in flight behaves as
it does are very correct, within a specified context and/or parameters.

The burden lies upon you, to communicate within the concise language of the sciences and not
rather instead, to create new meanings or vocabularies for others to learn.