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Anyone made a Lutec?

Started by Craigy, January 09, 2007, 12:52:11 PM

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tao

Quote from: Ren on November 30, 2007, 06:07:58 PM
Hi Craigy,

Im not 100% sure but I believe the Lutec is/was based on the Adams motor principles? If your interested in building/developing/improving a pulsed design come and join our conversations over in the pulse forums. Theres an abundance of info there to sift through.

Shan


I BELIEVE I know what Lutec is doing, what they were alluding to in their recent letter: http://www.lutec.com.au/other/lutec0711.pdf

It is based on a paper I wrote, but showed only a few people, some of those being Lindemann, Bedini... The paper was about making Lenz's Law work FOR US. This is DEFINITELY one aspect of the Bedini system, and I can explain it in simple means, nothing obscure.

Oh by the way, this feature of making Lenz's Law for for us is also incorporated in the Kunel Patent: http://classes.engr.oregonstate.edu/eecs/fall2003/ece441/groups/g12/Research/Linear%20Generator%20Stuff/Linear_Generator_Patent.pdf

More on this later, out for dinner ;p

hartiberlin

Yes, Peter Lindeman?s latest DVD Motor secrets seems to use it.
Highly recommended !
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Ren

tao, Hoptoad generously wrote a lengthy article for the pulse motorists about his learnings/experiments in "bending lenz law" found on page 10 here http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/index.html

Is this perhaps the direction your refering to? Good reading for all if you're interested in pulsed dc arrangements.

tao

Quote from: Ren on November 30, 2007, 09:49:39 PM
tao, Hoptoad generously wrote a lengthy article for the pulse motorists about his learnings/experiments in "bending lenz law" found on page 10 here http://www.totallyamped.net/adams/index.html

Is this perhaps the direction your refering to? Good reading for all if you're interested in pulsed dc arrangements.


Phew, thanks for that article, I read the whole thing. He did a very good writeup. I noticed at the end he says this:
"The 64 million dollar question, is, Why and how does this effect occur??

That's hopefully where you might enlighten me! I have an "Opinion" as to how and why this occurs, but it is not strictly within the realms of current teaching, nor strictly outside of it. But for the time being I'll just keep my opinion to myself. But I have given you all the little pointers you need to exaggerate and see this effect for yourself, and know that Adams really did discover something useful and have something to offer, even if it wasn't really what he thought it was.

But hey, a really easy to make alternator, that outstrips conventional induction means of generation whilst using less iron and copper is something special isn't it ? Sure can help to save a lot of money all round. Wind generators would really benefit from this type of generating system. Now"bend" those power and bemf curves - yeh!

Happy experimenting to all !"



So, after reading his writeup, I feel certainly that he is using the EFFECT that I am talking about, but that his methods to 'exaggerate' this EFFECT are 'righteously convoluted' (because how is he or anyone else to know really WHY?) and make for seeing how and why this EFFECT occurs hard to notice/see...

I need to modify my little paper that I wrote, in fact, I want to rewrite it, make it more concise and very easy to read and understand (of which it kind of already was).

I would liken the effect to 'making Lenz's Law work for us' instead of thinking of it as 'bending Lenz's Law'.

The part where Hoptoad rewords Lenz's Law certainly fits his writeup in that it helps to understand the mysterious 'exaggeration of Lenz's Law' that Hoptoad is talking about, but in understanding the way I see the EFFECT and seeing how it works, Lenz's Law fits just nicely as it is, without modifications: "the magnetic field of any induced current opposes the change that induces it."

hoptoad

Quote from: tao on December 01, 2007, 12:21:06 AM

So, after reading his writeup, I feel certainly that he is using the EFFECT that I am talking about, but that his methods to 'exaggerate' this EFFECT are 'righteously convoluted' (because how is he or anyone else to know really WHY?) and make for seeing how and why this EFFECT occurs hard to notice/see...

The part where Hoptoad rewords Lenz's Law certainly fits his writeup in that it helps to understand the mysterious 'exaggeration of Lenz's Law' that Hoptoad is talking about, but in understanding the way I see the EFFECT and seeing how it works, Lenz's Law fits just nicely as it is, without modifications: "the magnetic field of any induced current opposes the change that induces it."........
@Tao
Greetings Tao, the reason I set up the experiment on page 10 the way I did, was to show you a way to reproduce a certain "effect" which occurs in the Adam's, Bedini, Lutec motor etc which all the Inventors of said motors claim is a result of their "special" pulsing technique, or "special" coil layout, but which actually has nothing to do with pulsing or special coils whatsoever.

Page 10 is not intended to explain why the anomoly occurs, but is meant to show you how to make it occur in a very obvious and undeniable way, so you can study it yourself. In this instance, I have deliberately shied away from the explanation as to to "why" so as not to prejudice the views of those who wish to experiment and study this anomoly themselves. In this way, if more information comes to light, it will be from some-one else's fresh viewpoint and not tainted in any way by my "beliefs" or experimental data.

As stated on page 10, I have an "opinion" about how the shift from "oppositional" to "neutral" reaction occurs within the pick-up coils, and will eventually air this opinion. But in the meantime, I am hoping that others will at least replicate the "effect" so that I have "peers" in this area to compare notes to.

As for Bending Lenz's Law, I'll stick by that statement, because according to Lenz's Law, every time the load is increased, the resultant extra coil current should oppose the movement of the inducing magnets and cause further slowing of the rotor, but in an open system, this is not entirely the case.

Sorry if the explanation got a little convoluted, but "self righteous"?  :D I wish I could take myself that seriously!  :D :D

Cheers from the Toad who Hops.