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Has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works?

Started by TriKri, March 29, 2021, 06:27:50 PM

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lancaIV

The lavo is an hydrogen metal alloy storage with fuel cell converter with 50% efficiency
 
https://www.ecogeneration.com.au/the-40kwh-34750-196kg-hydrogen-battery-for-the-home/

20 000 charge cycles estimation !
Weight 196 Kg the storage , +- 324 Kg the total system
Price : $ 34.750 ,assuming Aussi -Dol(l)ar

$34750 /20 000 charge cycles/5 KW ~ € 0,3475/KWh


" .....  As with all first-of-its-kind gear the Lavo batteries are expensive, with a $34,750 price tag for the first model. Over time, and as efficiencies are further fine-tuned, Muller expects to the price will one day begin with a two. .... "

Probably more related hidrit material : Professor Aguey-Zinsou publications


https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/alchemy-of-energy-breakthrough-offers-mass-hydrogen-storage-options-20200702-p558dj.html


Professor Aguey-Zinsou said the alloy contained titanium and "other common materials", but declined to name them, pending the issuance of a formal patent expected within weeks.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360319919318336

https://research.unsw.edu.au/people/professor-kondo-francois-aguey-zinsou/publications?page=1




https://www.element14.com/community/groups/power-management/blog/2020/07/09/researchers-develop-a-system-that-could-store-large-amounts-of-electricity-in-the-form-of-hydrogen


It could potentially cost as low as 2 cents per kW-hour, or less than one-tenth the cost of lithium and buying power from the grid, which makes the storage very competitive. Converting electricity to hydrogen and back would "multiply the inefficiencies," and rapid take-up of the product shouldn't be expected


from $0,3475 to $0,02 the system endconsumer price has to decline to $2000
            Muller expects to the price will one day begin with a two. ....  ::)



Even $ 3475 would be too high for the below 80% worldwide private households !



Sincere
OCWL


For that value $3475 you can get the equivalent 5 KW output by

Imris magnet amplifier + Ramos Suarez or Tanaka Saburo battery charger and adgex.ru 25000 cycles Nickel-battery





https://permies.com/t/30590/Intermittent-Adsorption-Refrigerator


https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/6659809/hydrocarbon-technology-gtz

NdaClouDzzz

ur easy to fuk with, Ramset. And I'm not Chris! Bunch of dummies here who think so! 8)

lancaIV

Quote from: TriKri on March 29, 2021, 06:27:50 PM
As the title says, has anyone here constructed an overunity system that works? If so, are there instructions to reproduce your build? I'm asking because it would be nice to hear from someone who has personal experience of a system and can verify that it works and produces more energy that it consumes.




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https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=CA&NR=2061962A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19930828&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6603890

Fenn resolves the dilemma when he states, Id. page 15, " work as not energy. Work is not 'possessed' by a system whereas Energy is.

AlienGrey

Quote from: lancaIV on March 30, 2021, 04:40:57 PM



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https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=CA&NR=2061962A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19930828&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

https://www.osti.gov/biblio/6603890

Fenn resolves the dilemma when he states, Id. page 15, " work as not energy. Work is not 'possessed' by a system whereas Energy is.
Oh dreary me what went wrong that link doesn't work.

lancaIV

Good Morning ,AlienGrey !
Do You mean that the osti.gov link does not open John.B.Fenn his lecture book ?
Then You are right !
Btw : "free energy and overunity" expressions are (analytical electro-)chemistry related ,less Physics !
A little knowledge about Avogrado and Gay-Lussac experiments helps !
John Bennett Fenn ,for his special works awarded,Nobel Award,in Chemistry ( ionisation)  !
Another Chemistry awarded work,not by Mr.Fenn ,important for surplus energy results disclosure, "asymetrics" related !