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Plauson's converter

Started by nix85, April 29, 2021, 01:10:16 PM

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nix85

i'm looking at this aerosol idea and it's not very clear how he imagined he would
obtain energy that way. apparently one net is electrostatically charging the water
droplets in the air which wind carries to second net which is grounded and he would
put load between the charging net and the ground. hmm. point being you are using
electricity to charge the water, not sure there would be gain there.

nix85



nix85

"A typical lightning flash is about 300 million Volts and about 30,000 Amps. "

yea but lightning doesn't occur that often, there are i heard around 2000 in the world
every second

as someone said when you average that into kwh, not much at all

besides, atmospheric electricity is also quite primitive and bulky approach,
i sure do not recommend it to anyone (here i mean strictly conventional
atmospheric collectors, not etheric ones)

lancaIV

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besides, atmospheric electricity is also quite primitive and bulky approach,i sure do not recommend it to anyone (here i mean strictly conventionalatmospheric collectors, not etheric ones)


".... etheric ...."  Did You soon defined "The Ether" ?


In-/ex-cluded https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment ?


By 2021 view also called now "dark matter"


" .... primitive ....." Where is your under-/average /over- primitive "approach" line ?




1922 : 1,8 bio human habitants world density : much more free useable area than 2021 with now 7,8 bio human habitants on earth


Which is here the power/weight converter ratio if :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A


The design of the quantum well diodes for the reversible thermoelectric converter is a function of the application, and the effective temperature and intensity of the source of hot electrons. Several applications of the reversible thermoelectric converter are discussed below. In an example of a thin film metallic quantum well diode suitable for the conversion of solar energy concentrated up to 10@7 watts per square meter,


                                       for power numbers


layer 42 (FIGS. 2 and 3) is an evaporated aluminum film having a thickness of 140 angstroms, barrier layer 44 is evaporated aluminum oxide having a thickness of 12 angstroms and layer 40 is an evaporated copper film having a thickness of 100 angstroms.


                                       Aluminium weighs 2.699 gram per cubic centimeter

                                       Standard household foil is typically 0.016 mm (0.63 mils) thick,
                                       and heavy duty household foil is typically 0.024 mm (0.94 mils).

                                         https://www.unitconverters.net/length/angstrom-to-millimeter.htm  100 angstroms = 0,00001 mm


                                      Copper weighs 8.94 gram per cubic centimeter


                                   

                                      for material weight calculation numbers , about thickness  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angstrom

                                     


For this energy conversion application, metal electrodes are specified since amounts of power as large as concentrated solar energy can be delivered by the quantum reversible thermoelectric converter.


The high power output capability results from the large electron carrier density of metals, which can be orders of magnitude larger than the most heavily doped semiconductors.




low cost radiation concentrator :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/005847503/publication/DE2228501A1?q=pn%3DDE2228501A1




https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DD&NR=271578A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19890906&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DD&NR=272727A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19891018&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890524&CC=DD&NR=268331A5&KC=A5




btw :     15% efficiency commercial photo-voltaic converter means :


            200Wp per square meter                                                 


            compared    10@7 wattp per square meter




           2021    "   industrial primitive stoneage products  " ?     is :      200 W/sqm    will be :10 000 000 W/sqm



                           50 000 times or   5 000 000 % physical  material use efficiency improvement,


                           portable devices


           How these angstrom layer devices are produced :


           f.e. https://www.angstromsciences.com/sputtering-magnetron-advantage


           or photo-lithografical like here listed


           https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=alvin+marks&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search




                                to understand commercial 2030 photo/-n-voltaic conversion standart and production technology:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectenna


https://today.uconn.edu/2013/02/uconn-professors-patented-technique-key-to-new-solar-power-technology/#


           http://www.novasolix.com/              NOVASOLIX PATENT SUMMARY

           http://sustainableskies.org/sas-2019-larry-cooke-novasolix/


Each carbon nanotube antenna is about one micron (1/10,000,000th of a meter) long with a diode on one end that operates at frequencies approaching 1 PHz or one quadrillion cycles per second.


NovaSolix collectors place "roughly one million tiny radio receivers per square inch, they are able to retrieve frequencies "from low infrared through visible light and up into the ultraviolet.


or


The NovaSolix approach places roughly one trillion tiny radio receivers (rectennas) per square inch


          one million or 1 trillion : great production machine per second output quantity and quality difference !




                                        2,54 cm x 2,54 cm = 1 sq inch = 6,45 cm2

        NFED devices progress "up to date"
 

       Dr.Hermann Plauson devices and other Otto Traun Laboratory applications are similar Dr.Alvin Marks inventions
 

       The economical question :


       from actually 10 cents per KWh photo-voltaic conversion price how many times


       the above "50 000 times " efficiency improvement will decrease the converter energy generation price in future !


                                                 "10 cents divided 50 000 times" : NO !

       Technical-physical possible :  from   10 cents per KWh to -at first- 1 cent per KWh and over time to


                    0,1 cent per KWh or 0,001 Euro/Dollar per KWh = 1 MWh for 1 Euro/Dollar


       Political barrier ? Works international politics intelligent or primitive ?