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O.U. Magnet force shielding 1

Started by Floor, May 28, 2021, 02:46:34 PM

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norman6538

Floor are you sure the mags will separate 2 inches. I'd think more like 1 but that would  still be
OU 20....

Norman

Floor

@ Norman

Its actually quite a bit more than two inches (shield removed and in repelling mode).

I'm being very conservative in my claims.

Check out CITFTA's  video again
@ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHHVrQRby9A&t=174s


norman6538

But cifta is moving the stator.

Norman

Floor

Quote from: norman6538 on August 29, 2021, 07:08:32 PM
Floor are you sure the mags will separate 2 inches. I'd think more like 1 but that would  still be
OU 20....

Norman

The reason I posted that cifta video is that it gives some idea as to the force present
at 2 inches and more, of the output magnet from the fixed magnet when the shield
magnet is not in place.
... ... ... ... ... ... ...

Quote from: norman6538 on August 29, 2021, 08:17:12 PM
But cifta is moving the stator.

Norman

Stator ?

Fixed, output and shield (or shunting magnet).  But no stator.

   YES...
CIFTA is causing the movement of the shield magnet by manipulating
the output magnet. I think this was just something that intrigued cifta
at the time.  He probably wasn't thinking about how this might confuse
viewers as to the correct functioning of the design ?

He did good builds in some ways and I don't want to knock it, but they fell short
in terms of the degree of precision of magnet motion / magnet positioning required.
 
I'm fairly certain that cifta himself stated that he considered his build's precision as
being probably short of what was required (in at least one of his videos).

Also, I think it is pretty clear that cifta was just beginning to understanding the design's
operation at that time.
 
But he does have his magnet polarities correct and the overall of the motions
are all there (in the present cifta video).

PS
The shield magnet WILL experience considerable / undesirable lateral forces when the
alignments are not precise enough (as in the present cifta video). 

Also, something akin to what I call "Luke's force" is always present in the device, EVEN WHEN
polar orientation, magnet positions and precision ARE all correct.  But that "Luke's force" is
taken at right angles to the track sliding directions and therefore does not manifest as an
energy expenditure. 


norman6538

Thanks Floor, that makes it very clear. I expect to get something done this week...
I hope to hear from Cifta soon.....but what bothers me is why Gotoluc and others are not on
this but I know we all get busy and have limited time. My problem is the rigid construction required. As of now it looks like only 3 or 4 are interested. That is pathetic.

Norman