Another boring Free Energy Debate

[Floor]

greed

Webster's Dictionary
a selfish and excessive desire for more of something than is needed.

https://dict.hinkhoj.com/greed-meaning-in hindi.words
an uncontrolled longing for increase in the acquisition or use of material gain ;
or social value, such as status, or power. Greed has been identified as undesirable
throughout known human history because it creates behavior-conflict between
personal and social goals.

dictionary.com
excessive or rapacious desire, especially for wealth or possessions.

Princeton university WordNet
an "excessive desire to acquire or possess more than one needs or deserves.

Greek pleonexia, originating from the Greek πλεονεξια, is the word that is
most commonly translated as greed.

The word pleonexia found in the writing of both Plato and Aristotle, and is
defined as "the insatiable desire to have what rightfully belongs to others."

John Ritenbaugh describes it as a "ruthless self-seeking, and an arrogant
assumption that others and things exist for one's own benefit."

Greek scholar William Barclay describes pleonexia as an "accursed love of
having," which "will pursue its own interests with complete disregard for the
rights of others, and even for the considerations of common humanity."

https://www.anquotes.com/quotes-about-greed/

and so on...

[MagnaProp]

A concern of mine is what happens if and when we find a free energy device that works? Does food production and famine stop? Does the earth and all living things on it begin to heal?

Or does our path of destruction continue? Can we now wage war with drones 24/7 since they no longer need to stop for fuel or the fuel cost is so low now with our "free energy device", that its price is insignificant. Drone mining operations can continue to run 24/7 without needing to stop for rest. They can keep stripping the earth of resources so that mansions can continue to have wall to wall marble stoned toilets and walls. Does all our trash and waste that goes into landfills and the ocean magically stop. Does it increase since its now even less expensive to produce such garbage due to our new "free energy" device?

We could do a lot less harm to the environment now if we wanted to. Why would a free energy device stop such greed? Sure I have 10 iPhones that work perfectly fine but why not continue to throw those away and get the latest one that has even more features I will never use.

[MagnaProp]

...Russia is a good example and it's turned into a cesspool of corruption and greed...

I agree with all you said. Another concern of mine is how well humans can adapt to seemingly terrible conditions. Even your Russia can look like a dream come true to someone willing to hang onto the outside of a C-17 for what ever their reasons may be. A lot of people will die as conditions get worse on this planet but if Eskimos can live in the harsh arctic, some people will find a way to survive as the earth continues to rot.

What I'm after I suppose is not simply a free energy device but how do we change the thinking of the human species. Assuming it can be changed. We appear to be like a virus that is spreading and killing its host. How do we stop the spread of such a virus? Can it be stopped? Does the human species want it to stop? 

...It is our destiny to "evolve" and do the next right thing !

Sadly it's our nature to resist change and stay with what we know.

...I often questioned how I succeeded in FE while so many others didn't. My conclusion was that it was greed in some sense, I wanted it more than others and was willing to do whatever it took and change my thinking/beliefs in order to get the job done...

Our motivation is only greed if it's only for ourselves. The definition of greed gets muddy when we start thinking of being "fairly" compensated for our work.

[onepower]

Magnaprop

I think you nailed it...

In many respects free energy and more power can only accelerate a fundamentally flawed set of beliefs. In a world infatuated with greed and consumerism more energy is not a viable solution. It would simply allow mankind to do what were presently doing faster, cheaper and on a larger scale. Not unlike the completely absurd notion that more powerful weapons would deter war.

"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
― Voltaire

To be honest, to be in the free energy club of those who have come to understand it is a curse. All that time and effort, but more so finding clarity in our thoughts and looking past most common beliefs. It wasn't long after I understood how free energy works that I also understood it doesn't matter. It's simply a better mousetrap, a more efficient machine, nothing more. It does not have the capacity to save anyone from anything, including themselves...

For example, just recently the Pentagon/government released video proving that what we call UFO's are in fact real. Millions of people who have seen them like myself knew this however I was surprised that it was basically a non-event. What should have been the greatest discovery in the history of mankind was basically ignored. As well when I explained this to my friends all they could do is give me this glassy eyed stare off into space. Prior there was some criticism or talking points however now it's simply no comment... silence.

So the majority of people are stuck between a rock and a hard place and there beliefs will not allow them to move forward. As we can see there is a great deal of hostility and fear of any science or facts which challenges there beliefs. Half the population doesn't want to move forward but more so backwards and live in the past. I think this is the reason why so many free energy inventors in the past just walked away and moved on with there life. Your damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Strange times, people are already starting to lose it and the levels of anxiety/intolerance are rising. I'm optimistic about the future but then again I'm generally wrong about everything initially, lol.

Regards
AC

[lancaIV]

It is clearly also ' pricing politics ' !
When we go to the supermarket we buy things with offered Kg or Lt. Price !
The world-market for goods and materials is per ton offered !
1 Wattpeak solarcell now for 6 Gr. material-input available ,material + real transformation costs per Kg ?
1 Wattpeak for less than 1 Gr. as thermionic cell ,1 Kg thermionic cell real costs ?
1000 W for 100 US$ selling price ? 50 US$  fob factory ?

Free societies : East-West- conflict ,protected markets

The East opening,clearly a great consumer market but also a great industrial producer capacity !
Concurrence,under 'no capital tax allowance '- condition by social laws and order rules !
'no capital tax' : also fundamental  religion member case
That in religious societies,today political  also called socialist(-communist) economies the production costs by salaryare 80% lower,compared capital taxing economies, is not undemocratic but " fair - social -  trade " !

More than half from our population on Earth ,around the Equator with relative mild climate,would be glad about
2 KWh( 3 KWh with simple mirror,1500 KWh solar radiation per annum/sqm; more as artificial light tube : 5000 KWh/a for ≤ 100 US$) free converted electricity per household per day and for 50 US$ investment  !

Cheap production factory technology proliferation ( in a container-box) : per 10 sqkm one Megafactory
or like ' M.I.T.' :  CD-DVD Laser-player/conventional printer as "solar ink/graphene" cell-factory in each private household or central community-house .


E.U. and U.S.A. represents only 10% from the world population :

the actually  living standart not a Vision for the other 90%, offering destroying ecology and economy !
Internal a 'cold civil war' to see ! Society-mobbing,Triage

The political chance for change ,as example :The E.U.- mediterrean countries Contract,Barcelona 1992
Contract-Member : Syria,Turkey,Lybia,.......
1992 ! An E.U. political ' Pearl harbour' ! 

From Khadafi 'Green Book' islamic social-democracy to 'Scharia'(-like) north-african societies/estates !
Well done !
' Arabian spring '(Tunisia) to ' arabian cold winter' ( social)  !