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Electrostatic turbine

Started by ckreol1, September 24, 2021, 06:25:09 AM

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kajunbee

I believe these numbers to be correct. Maybe other members can verify.

kajunbee

I see now that I made a mistake. The energy stored on .5 uf at 2000 volts should be 1 joule. To early in the morning I guess.

onepower

ckreol1
QuoteI'm going to watch this video. It blew me away the first time I watched it. It speaks to the energy in electrostatic systems:
Lec 07: Capacitance and Field Energy | 8.02 Electricity and Magnetism, Spring 2002 (Walter Lewin) - YouTube

Then I'll try to figure out the equations affecting the system I proposed.

I like Walter Lewin because he is more specific, note that in the problem at the beginning of the video he said the force to separate two charged plates is not F=QE but 1/2QE.
Lewin then goes on to say this is true because the charge is on the surface and not in the conductor so they average the electric field by adding 1/2 to the equation.

This is quite common and when we see "1/2" in most equations they are averaging the maximum-minimum of something, lol.
In fact most have no idea where the "1/2" comes from, how it relates or why it was applied.
Think about that, we could take Earths E field 100 miles high, add 1/2, and "average" it. Forget all the facts, the gradient of force,
all the subtle nuances and just pretend it's a uniform average... it's absurd.

So we should understand that the equations seldom if ever actually describe the whole reality of what is happening in a system.
It's often little more than a generalized watered down version of reality in most cases. So we need to be careful what we believe
the equations are actually describing and to what extent.

In many respects this is why most people have no success with free energy technology.
They only look at these systems superficially often ignoring all the finer details of what actually occurs in reality.
To the point, the electric field properties they averaged out in there equations are a large part of why they
failed to find the answers they were looking for. In fact what most people do is completely backwards to what they should do.

The equations come after we understand how the system works not before.
As such they are not a learning tool but used to verify what we should have already learned.
Otherwise were not learning about the reality of a system more so how to manipulate equations and that simply does not work.

Regards
AC