The Aether versus General Relativity

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I'm simply pointing out that it's one thing to have a belief but quite another to take action which attempts to inhibit others freedom and beliefs.

I believe Tesla and many other great inventors had free energy and it was based on an Aether theory. This obviously represented a danger to others vested interests and wealth so they attempted to bury it. As I implied, an independent free thinking individual has little reliance on others or there beliefs.

Many are starting to understand that anyone who profits from us is not really our friend. This can easily be proven by telling them we will not give them another dime and seeing what happens. Try going to your church, local politician, place of business, or utility provider and telling them they will not get another dime. You will soon find yourself an outcast perceived as the enemy and see how quickly the attitudes change. I have done this experiment many times and watched as the person falsely claiming to be a friend turned into a monster before my eyes. You see... real science works.

So we should understand most of modern science is as much about money, greed and control as anything. Nobody wants us to be truly free or independent of them because there's simply no profit in it. However we could note that Tesla often spoke of true freedom and independence which was why the powers that be destroyed him and buried his work.

You are wrong, I am not a propagandist I am a realist and an inventor.

The science is pretty clear and when a person runs out of facts or valid arguments they often resort to gaslighting or attacking the person as you have. I have determined that others independence and freedom is in my best interests. Individual freedom and independence from others beliefs takes away from monopolies and the mob mentality which is in all our best interests in my opinion.

Regards
AC

"I'm simply pointing out that it's one thing to have a belief but quite another to take action which attempts to inhibit others freedom and beliefs."

And yet that is exactly what you did, repeatedly, in your dialog with nix85 in the topic @

https://overunity.com/12328/radiant-electriciy-generated-with-spark-gaps-and-induction-coils-theory/msg560694/#msg560694

i.e. attempt to inhibit another.  The infliction of pain upon another by whatever means,
physically or emotionally as an attempt to inhibit / control that other.

"I believe Tesla and many other great inventors had free energy and it was based on an Aether theory. This obviously represented a danger to others vested interests and wealth so they attempted to bury it."
                                                 
                                                             No doubt.     
                         And what ?  You put your self in the same class as Tesla ?

"As I implied, an independent free thinking individual has little reliance on others or there beliefs."
                                                                  Not true !
Show me one thought, word, idea, value, or belief that came from you, and that has "little reliance
on others or their beliefs".  Just one.

"Many are starting to understand that anyone who profits from us is not really our friend."

                            There you go with your "us" and "our" crap again.

                          Who do you think you are entitled to be speaking for.
                       Why don't you show a little courage and speak for your self.

Although you mostly manage to keep it subtle, your actions reveal that your objections are more
so based in your own petty jealousy,  rather than in any concern for others. 

"So we should understand most of modern science is as much about money, greed and control as anything."

                                That is not science, that is the abuse of knowledge and power.

"Try going to your church, local politician, place of business, or utility provider and telling them they will not get another dime. You will soon find yourself an outcast perceived as the enemy and see how quickly the attitudes change. I have done this experiment many times and watched as the person falsely claiming to be a friend turned into a monster before my eyes. You see... real science works."
 
                                                            Poor little rebel outcast.
                                   I don't even know you and all ready I don't like you.
                                  Gas lighting and then claiming to be the real victim here.

"The science is pretty clear and when a person runs out of facts or valid arguments they often resort to gaslighting or attacking the person as you have."

Dude, if I was to really start in with the gas lighting and attacking, you wouldn't know which way
was up, down or which way was loose.

   Don't worry.  But try to do a better job and take more responsibility for you own level of
honesty.

             egads
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                       As I previously said..
" To discuss the universe in terms of an Aether, is to say essentially the same thing
as that there are virtual particles.

Any Aether that existed, WOULD also BE a kind of "parallel universe"."

[onepower]

The fact remains that basically every successful free energy inventor who demonstrated working technology claimed to be using the Aether theory.

The greater majority also claimed they built free energy devices to free mankind from there dependence on others. To give people the freedom of choice where they get there energy.

I'm all for that...

Regards
AC

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Jerry

There is a primordial substance, in this universe, which is a state of matter that is so tenuous it will pass right through any known solid material.  In the olden days (early past century and before), this substance was known as the luminoferous chemical ether.  It has a dull red glow, with magnetic properties, surface tension (which enables it to flow and curl), and an electrical charge which depends on its density.  This is the ether which fell from popularity and was stigmatised.

Indeed, we already know what we call tangible matter is only 1% matter and 99% free space full of high energy particles and EM waves. So what we perceive as material is only 1% material and 99% energy.

The main problem would seem to be the inability to recognize all the space full of energy between the particles of matter. It's kind of like throwing 1 ping pong ball into 99 ounces of turbulent water and declaring all I see are ping pong balls. In fact it was only after I recognized how skewed and dysfunctional our perception of reality is that I began to make real progress towards free energy.

It's kind of strange because most Theists do not recognize material things as 99% non-physical in it's nature yet I as an Atheist do. What we call material is only 1% material immersed in a sea of energy which is seen as non-physical. Even more strange is the fact that we have never touched or sensed anything physical and it's only our mind deciphering electrical signals from the field interactions present. No physical particles ever come into contact and all forces relate directly to the fields surrounding the particles of matter. Thus everything we have ever sensed or measured could be considered non-physical because it is always a field interaction. Adding to the confusion is the fact that nobody seems to know what a field is...

It's no wonder everyone is so confused because science will not recognize spirituality and yet most all of science revolves around field interactions which are regarded as non-physical in it's nature. So the scientists don't believe in the non-physical things the science is based on and the theists don't believe in science which actually proves there beliefs have some merit. It's just one big old bundle of mass confusion isn't it?, lol.

Regards
AC