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Started by Johnsmith, December 22, 2021, 08:33:09 PM

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Johnsmith

Quote from: kolbacict on January 24, 2022, 11:19:04 AM
I agree. There is such a moment.  But I would not focus on this. I meant something else.
Mind games, resourcefulness and logic. And i have saw in this some indirect connection
with Bessler's self-running wheel. :)You're right. I don't understand how this can work.
But I understand that I have to do something. This or other.
I still think that the electrical part should be added to this circuit.
As a carrier of energy from one part of the device to another. Bypassing gravity...


  If you need something to do, maybe you could think about why the weight wheel moves closer
to the axle of the wheel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-3MqrU8bTg
And it is accelerating when it is doing so. This shows that it is not using energy to move towards
the axle. It is the interaction between those 2 weight wheels that cause the wheel to rotate.
I'll be starting work on the design for my fail safe. I'll most likely have someone else build it. It will
be easy enough to work. Then I can have my surgery. Then I will be in a better situation for working
on what I showed you. Between now and when that happens, I might do some more work on it. One
of the reasons for the videos was to show my subscribers on YouTube what it is that I've been
working at so they'd better understand it.
With my personal situation, I am handicapped/disabled for a reason. And this can help me to change
that and have a life.

p.s., with Bessler's clues, there are 2 that would suggest I can do 2 different things with this build. But
doing both things on the same wheel wouldn't help a wheel to work better. And this creates more that
needs to be done. And with the simple idea that I have, it would ensure success.
With the 2 clues, one is using springs and latches. Gravity would compress the spring and then when the weight wheel
would need to roll out, release the latch and then the spring will push it outward. That would be a lot of work.
The 2nd clue is also a lot of work but if it works as what I've done works, then a 60 rpm wheel would be possible. This
creates a problem of sorts. A slow rotating wheel wouldn't be that interesting but would be a part of Bessler's work.
I can start working on the faster wheel while I'm pursuing my "sure thing". And this means that I'll be busy designing for
a while. After all, I can't ask wood workers for bids if I don't have a design for them to consider. And with my current
wheel, can its frame be adapted? I think so but that will be even more work. I've been aware of this for a long time.
And this could easily take until April or longer. And this is where I need to slow down. Things will go better that way.
And thx4, if you want, I'll be able to show some more design work on the pendulum if you and Robinhood like.

kolbacict

This cartoon was made in the Soviet Union, when it was impossible otherwise.
You don't have to pay attention to it.  I just wanted to say that if we were as
resourceful as that boy, we would have had a perpetual motion machine by now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3XfSe_LAFA :)

Johnsmith

Quote from: kolbacict on January 25, 2022, 12:41:30 AM
This cartoon was made in the Soviet Union, when it was impossible otherwise.
You don't have to pay attention to it.  I just wanted to say that if we were as
resourceful as that boy, we would have had a perpetual motion machine by now...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3XfSe_LAFA :)


  That is what has been so frustrating about this forum and besslerwheel.com, they have aggressive people in
the other forum. This forum used to be as bad. People who were willing to try were openly ridiculed. And what
some said was that as private builders, they can tell you how to work. Then if someone who did work and was
successful, the private builder would get credit for teaching how to build for them.
That is not working together. If people work together then credit should be shared. An example would be like the
2 oscillation pendulum, if thx4 and Robinhood like my design, build it and it works, then we would need to
share credit. In the U.S., that would be considered as socialism which is considered like communism. It is not
capitalism. 
With what I am working on, I have realized what it is that I need to know. I will need to make the frame into an
actual wheel. Then with the 4 weight wheels that I have, if what I know is correct (if = если или можть быть)
when it might need a push to work.  Когда Я вишаль Береа, Кентукий, УСА Я начинаю Русский яазыке. I
wasn't from Berea like my mother so to socialize with people I learned some Russian and then back to
perpetual motion.
I think with different descriptions of Bessler's wheel that different wheels are being described. And while I
could pursue all of his clues, those can come after demonstrating a working wheel. And this would be using
the 4 weight wheels that I have. Then if that works, I'll be able to pursue a show that I want to do in Utrecht,
Netherlands because they have this book I've posted a link to before;
https://www.uu.nl/en/utrecht-university-library-special-collections/collections/early-printed-books/scientific-works/das-triumphirende-perpetuum-mobile-orffyreanum-by-johann-bessler
In a couple of weeks I'll be able to demonstrate what could allow for a 4 weighted wheel to work. I would only
be demonstrating the mechanics because I'd be using this wheel to demonstrate the mechanics. Then everyone would know what
I am building; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_aUN2hWyMs

Floor

Do you intend to build a self running device ?

What is the basic principle ?

Why might it produce energy ?

I wont criticize you if you say that you don't know.

Johnsmith

Quote from: Floor on January 26, 2022, 03:56:00 AM
Do you intend to build a self running device ?

What is the basic principle ?

Why might it produce energy ?

I wont criticize you if you say that you don't know.


  In the most simplistic, basic terms that I can think of;

The retraction disc creates what is known as "ersazt" gravity. Ersatz means not genuine. And then like the Moon
orbiting the Earth at night, it moves closer to the Earth. This shows the Sun's gravitational effect on it. And like Bessler's
wheel, when a weight is orbiting both the retraction disc (what Bessler called a drum) and then the wheel, it is drawn
closer to the 2 bodies it is orbiting around.
And when the Moon is between the Sun and the Moon, it is further from the Earth. And with Bessler's wheel, when a weight
is orbiting the retraction disc (what Bessler called a drum) it is closer to the center of its orbit.
I'm not sure why you don't understand so basic as to why the Moon and the Earth have their unique wobbly orbit around the
Sun when F = G(M1M2/r^2) explains it in simple to understand terms.
Basically if someone has taken the time to learn algebra, trigonometry and geometry as well as maybe rebuilding an engine
and working a lot with mechanics, they might understand that the weight wheel does not resist the motion of its arm. This
is because as the wheel rotates the retraction lines maintain a 90° relationship to the retraction disc and the axle of the
wheel. What Bessler did was shift the pendulum so it would swing from the axle of the wheel. To someone like you it is
known as magic. And basically, I've done the math.

p.s., your sarcasm is duly noted as you've spent no time learning anything about this. And it kind of shows
that you're not familiar with math, mechanics or science. The question is Can you keep up? And I know you can't.
Your word games show what you know.