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Feeding Hydrogen into engine tips !

Started by hartiberlin, January 19, 2007, 09:31:31 AM

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ZeroFossilFuel

Quote from: IronHead on August 03, 2007, 11:07:33 PM
This is if you are using pressurized hydrogen .

Understood. Engine finds it's own air/fuel mixture by speed. Revs too high, mixture leans out. Ignition timed at or near TDC mitigates heat buildup even when leaned way out. It still makes me wonder about possibile application to HHO on demand. I'll let the subconscious work on it now overnight and see what it comes up with in the morning. Cheers.

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IronHead

 Engine on 100% HHO . The first thing to take into consideration is that when burning HHO  there is little time for heat to migrate as HHO burn so fast. The engine will and does run much cooler on HHO gas. If you can produce that much HHO. The way I have found to control it is electronics . Large programmable PWM (48330 Motor Controller)  with pot on the throttle along with TPS connected to the ECM listed below . Start the low point at lets say 20 amps and the full throttle  at 100 amps or whatever might be required always having pressure build just above  required to run the engine, an accumulator .

With full on HHO you would produce enough HHO to pressurize  so in this case you would inject the HHO with injectors and controller . This system would also control timing curves via crank trigger or other. The best thing I have found to do all of this is .  http://www.megasquirt.info/

This is just the way I do it and not the end all be all.
I have a tendency to over build everything.

Keep on it , it can be done
IronHead

ZeroFossilFuel

If pure HHO runs cooler, what all the crap about SS valves, ceramic coating the pistons and cylinders, etc? Is it just that? Crap?
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IronHead

yup pretty much. I thought the same at one time,  but there is  no need for ceramic coating or stainless exhaust . People thought the water content was so high you needed SS but this is not true .How much water do you blow out the tailpipe that was sitting in the pips all night . . Ceramic  was done by BMW because they thought that Hydrogen burning at such a high temp would cause melt down but did not consider with  high O2 content the burn time would not allow migration. 

I would do SS valves as the valve do take abit of heat on there thin edge  .Other than that there is no need for all the other  stuff. Again this would be for pure H and air  or HHO. HHO is much more powerful and faster burning. with just H you do lose some power over gasoline , and the temps are abit higher. Some report up to 15%to 25% power lose. With HHO that would be a 20+% increase in power and much lower heat.

Many people are now reporting with the larger S-Cell installed  having a n increase they can feel although there have been no dyno test I know of yet. There will be some reports soon from people I have been working with through email coming to the HHO thread talking about results.

IronHead



buzneg

how much would that be in MPG. This company can get a 45% mpg increase, apparently. I was almost going to buy from hydrogen-boost.com until I saw that the device itself only attchieves about a 12% increase, and the rest is the driving habbits and matanence. This co. I don't see any dicliamers like that, they say in their FAQ "This is a simple "bolt-on" solution." I hope so

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