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Permanent magnet assisted motor coil designs

Started by captainpecan, January 24, 2022, 02:35:06 AM

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citfta

Yes it is and it seems to work pretty well.  It was a collective effort of several of the people that were working on the Tinman motor.  I did some testing of the ideas but most of the design came from others.




captainpecan

More mind ramblings... but i think i have a valid concept here. Thinking about how my special coils seem great for motor but terrible for generator, I came up with a way to use them on the other side as well. I have been kicking around this idea to help negate Lenz law when trying to use a generator side to pull energy from this system. I think I have another great way to use this special embedded magnet coils I made.

Consider 2 generator coils hooked in series. Coil 1 is an air core coil where permanent magnets will pass on both sides. Without passing any magnets over coil 2, coil 2 will generate a magnetic field equal to the field generated in coil 1. (I think) Because the field is generated from the current being pushed through coil 1 it will be the same current in coil 2. It is well known that if you want to increase the magnetic field of a coil, you can use more current, more turns of wire, and you can use a metallic core. Well, the current is actually going to be very slightly less due to extra resistance of adding a 2nd coil. We could use more turns of course, but that will also add some more resistance. But one change we can easily do is ad an iron core to coil 2. Now we should be able to get a stronger more concentrated field in coil 2 than  in coil 1. Now embed the permanent magnet in the core as well. Now line the same rotor or at least another rotor on the same shaft with coil 2 using instead iron to attract to coil 2 on both sides. Now what we get is every pulse created in coil 1 from magnets passing it that puts a little drag on the rotor, also creates a pulse in coil 2, releasing the permanent magnet field from the core along with the slightly stronger magnetic field originally created from the current in the coil and metallic core. This pulse attracts the metallic rotor towards it giving an extra push to the rotor at the exact same time the Lenz law is trying to drag it down at coil 1.
So, instead of getting a little drag with every bit of energy generated, we get both a little drag and a little push helping to negate the whole effect... maybe with some tweaking, Lenz can be redirected into no longer slowing down the rotor, or maybe even helping to speed it up a bit. Just a theory.
Hopefully I got that out of my head and typed out correctly.


captainpecan


captainpecan

Just a small update. I am rebuilding this weekend and changes things up a bit. So far, I have been running this coil and motor build in repulsion mode. Pulsing after the rotor passes TDC to repel the rotor. I have seen many many times others saying attraction worked better for them. With these special coils I had to try everything because I am not sure anyone has ever made a motor quite like this. Well, attraction is still way better. It's time to make the change everyone else did. Attraction is in fact stronger with this design as well.
I have made a couple rotors now for the new setup, and cut my wood. I have a couple more special coils to make to go with it as well and hopefully I'll be up and running soon.