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Permanent magnet assisted motor coil designs

Started by captainpecan, January 24, 2022, 02:35:06 AM

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kolbacict

And here is the motor from the VCR.
I glued the magnets inside the coils.
I will make a short circuit of these coils at the right time.
Will I succeed?  :)

kolbacict

It does not want to rotate yet. When the coil is closed at a certain frequency using a relay.
Counted  on the fact that the frequency of revolutions and the frequency of short circuits will successfully coincide.
And why, in fact, a permanent magnet is needed in the middle of the coil ?
Isn't it just by closing a coil with an iron core or without it at all, we will not break the symmetry of forces? ;)

p.s. And Andrey Slobodyan's motor,such some argue, is a worker, wasn't it of this type was?

captainpecan

Quote from: kolbacict on February 15, 2022, 05:51:17 AM
It does not want to rotate yet. When the coil is closed at a certain frequency using a relay.
Counted  on the fact that the frequency of revolutions and the frequency of short circuits will successfully coincide.
And why, in fact, a permanent magnet is needed in the middle of the coil ?
Isn't it just by closing a coil with an iron core or without it at all, we will not break the symmetry of forces? ;)

p.s. And Andrey Slobodyan's motor,such some argue, is a worker, wasn't it of this type was?


Your technique is different than mine. No clue how yours will work. But that's why we are here. Mine, I am using the core to redirect the flux naturally and release WITH the normal pulse of an electromagnet for boosted force. That's the theory anyway. Not sure if iron is needed, but it is integral to the design I am trying. Using data from K&J I determined 3mm thickness of iron (steel in my case) is needed to effectively contain the flux of my particular 12mm by 12mm magnets. It allows a like pole to be attracted to the core with a like pole magnet hiding in it. It naturally draws the two like poles together. Then with the pulse, the field from inside the core permanent magnet gets projected outside of the core to force the rotor away. Just like a normal electromagnet except there is a strong flux waiting to be released already. Then when the pulse stops, you get an added pulse through the coil when the permanent magnet flux again moves back inside the coil. This should be naturally timed with the collapsing field of the coil. I have not tested those effects yet. That is to come. Interesting to see how your technique will work.

kolbacict

Quote(steel in my case) is needed to effectively contain the flux of my particular 12mm by 12mm magnets. It allows a like pole to be attracted to the core with a like pole magnet hiding in it. It naturally draws the two like poles together. Then with the pulse, the field from inside the core permanent magnet gets projected outside of the core to force the rotor away.
I understood. :)
QuoteThat's what I'm hoping for and it looks to be true so far.
What success have you achieved?

captainpecan

It does do as expected. But life has been insane for a bit. I just haven't been able to work on my own stuff much lately. Hopefully I'll get some more results posted soon. I still can't tell how much better it works, but it does seem to be at least an advantage. Can't really say more yet because I just don't have the results yet.