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Overunity Machines Forum



Luling magnet motor with 3D printed parts (motion only bij permanent magnets)

Started by knovos, February 18, 2022, 11:02:07 AM

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knovos

Good to know someone is still working on this technique. But what you say is correct. If you come up with electronic solutions then you make a completely different machine and it is better to open a thread yourself with this approach.

Ufopolitics


Hello again,

Basically, You need the Springs BEFORE making it...as Spring will set all TRAVEL DISTANCES.

And here is a Solution, without going and re-printing the outer housing again... ;)


Remember when I suggested to build the Outer Housing case in THREE PARTS?
As also I suggested to use a full bolt from wall to wall?


1- A Front Wall
2- A Rear Wall
3- Piston Housing


Well, I know You have a Rear Wall and a Center Housing which includes the Front Wall, according to your drawings...So, all  you will need to do is either cut-divide the front wall from center housing...
or just make those two pieces separate again...


Just get four long enough Threaded Rod (a bolt without the head) and Nuts and washers...as I show on graphic below.


This way, when spring arrives you could set the right distance and test maximum stretch distance...


This Force that you apply in order to stretch spring to max, SHOULD BE MEASURED...in order to calculate Your PISTON WEIGHT or to choose the right spring.


In the case of the OTF Knife, the BLADE WEIGHT is COMPENSATED with Spring Specifications (Max Stretch) PLUS  the TRAVELED DISTANCE...


So, main point here is that Plates can NEVER HIT the Rear or Front Plates!!


Later, once you have OTF Piston working beautifully...You still need to take Your Piston Force MEASURED delivered at the END STROKE*...


And this Force MUST BE GREATER than the Force it takes to separate your Attract Magnet...


*Measuring End Stroke Force: You need to set your Digital Gauge FACING Piston front shaft (tool comes with a Point attachment)...Gauge must be bolted on a plate where your OTF Piston assembly is  also bolted on that plate...


Move your Piston loosely forward to the max...by hand, and make sure it contacts the gauge at its maximum stretch.


Then you CHARGE your Piston by retracting it and locking it...release trigger while looking at digital screen...As this Gauges (at least mine) does not retain measured newtons and resets back to zero as force ends and piston kicks back...it only shows measured force for less than a second.


It may take a few attempts to get the right measurement...or the average force after a few tests.


There is a lot of patience required in order to build this whole motor and be successful...and follow all steps guidelines...otherwise it will not work.


And after all of the above is achieved successfully...You still need to test Your Piston at high speed...in order to check your Trigger-Locking Latch mechanism is also working perfectly fine.


So, you will also need to build a Testing platform for this Testing...a simple one...a small electric motor that you could measure its RPM's...with a stick at shaft which hits your piston trigger lever and some type of switch at the end of piston, which counts the Strokes per minute...everytime it extends and hits switch.


This test is crucial in order to know your Piston does not makes "False Triggers" or do not lock well at high speeds...if it fails...then the locking system needs some fixing...


Realize the perfect piston needs to stroke twice per RPM...without any failures...so, just going 100 RPM's...it must do 200 strokes per minute...


Every Magnet have a SPECIFIC REPULSE FORCE...depending on size, geometry, grade etc,etc...and this Force will dictate the Max speed that your motor would go...if Piston-Trigger Mechanism responds accurately to every REPULSION STROKE (repulse force at angular momentum).




Regards




Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics

Hello Floodrod,


You are very welcome to open your own Thread here:


https://overunity.com/lueling-magnet-motor/


Then choose "New Topic"


And please, add your name to your Thread, for future easier access...like "Floodrod Luling Mechanical-Magnetic Motor Build"...or the like.


And yes, it is a great idea to use electronics to test your motor...or to test whatever...


Remember than in  order to repair or even to diagnose an Engine, we all need a scanner connected to an ECM (Electronic Control Module) which tells the Faulty Codes...


And if you look at my previous post, I proposed Knovos a few tests...and one of them, the latest, Speed Stress Test  requires to build a specific platform which triggers the Piston latch with a small electric motor...while measuring the strokes versus the RPM's of Motor...


And guys, for anyone that have seen my video...and does not responds to himself that this is an "Air Motor"...LOL....Knows that We can build this thing and make it SUPERB!!




Regards and Welcome to our Builder's Thread!!




Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
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floodrod

Thank you both. I am actively watching both your builds and wish you both much success. I will take your invitation and open a thread when I have the basics in place :)

knovos

I'll have to wait for my pressure gauge first. This has now become too much trial and error.