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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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bistander

Quote from: citfta on October 26, 2022, 03:03:16 PM

I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense.  If it didn't change in space then how could it change in time?  With 60 hz AC power applied to the primary of a transformer the magnetic field builds up in one polarity and then collapses and rebuilds in the opposite polarity 120 times a second.  That is a field that changes in space and time.

Hi citfta,
I don't see the change in space (meaning change of position). Take a single phase transformer connected to the 60Hz mains with a simple resistor load. The magnetic circuit or core has the B field. B is constantly changing magnitude reversing polarity 120 times a second, but it is not moving. The B vector remains in the same location. The only 'changing flux' term in the equation is due to magnitude change with respect to time. Show me where I'm wrong.
bi

Ufopolitics

Quote from: kolbacict on October 26, 2022, 02:25:48 PM
Does the magnetic field change in space in an ordinary classical transformer with two windings, where nothing moves anywhere? Unlike, for example, a classical generator with a rotating rotor?


Of course the Magnetic Field moves in Space in ANY Transformer!!
Just like Citfta mentioned...only thing is that YOU will  have to "visualize it"... ;D
Every time the Field is generated by AC with a Positive side of the sinewave, it contructs a field in one direction...to then "shrink", "contract" to zero to grow up again into the opposite direction when the AC sinewave is Negative...so, like Citfta said, that takes place 120 times in a second...
Can you see it?...of course not!!
No one can see it ...but it does takes place just like that.


Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics

Quote from: bistander on October 26, 2022, 04:34:31 PM
Hi citfta,
I don't see the change in space (meaning change of position). Take a single phase transformer connected to the 60Hz mains with a simple resistor load. The magnetic circuit or core has the B field. B is constantly changing magnitude reversing polarity 120 times a second, but it is not moving. The B vector remains in the same location. The only 'changing flux' term in the equation is due to magnitude change with respect to time. Show me where I'm wrong.
bi


Hi Bistander,
In order for the Field to go from max top of sinewave is a full expansion of the field spectrum, then when sinewave goes to zero, field shrinks to zero in previous config...to comeback with opposite polarization.
It is not about traveling linearly in space, either in a straight line or in a circle...but expanding and contracting.
A Balloon is a pefect example...in the same place (not rotating, not travelling in a line), when it is fully inflated versus when is empty...it is using different space, space is also changing.
Ufopolitics
Principles for the Development of a Complete Mind:Study the science of art. Study the art of science.
Develop your senses- especially learn how to see. Realize that everything connects to everything else.
―Leonardo da Vinci

bistander

Quote from: kolbacict on October 26, 2022, 03:36:15 PM
And in the case of rotation of the rotor with permanent magnets, is there a difference from transformer ? Maybe there is something else there? ;)

Hi kolbacict,
The way I see it is you can have changing flux with regards to time without flux motion (or change of position). However, staying away from QM, you cannot have changing flux due to motion without changing time.

You can't get from point A to point B in zero time. But you can go from 1.0T to 0.5T at point A, a fixed location or x,y,z coordinate in space.
bi



bistander

Quote from: Ufopolitics on October 26, 2022, 04:43:03 PM

Hi Bistander,
In order for the Field to go from max top of sinewave is a full expansion of the field spectrum, then when sinewave goes to zero, field shrinks to zero in previous config...to comeback with opposite polarization.
It is not about traveling linearly in space, either in a straight line or in a circle...but expanding and contracting.
A Balloon is a pefect example...in the same place (not rotating, not travelling in a line), when it is fully inflated versus when is empty...it is using different space, space is also changing.
Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,
I hear you, but don't agree that your analogy applies. Like, how much space is 2 volts compared to 5 volts?
bi

edit: Ufo, do you still believe that magnetic flux flows? That may be an issue.