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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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Ufopolitics

Quote from: listener192 on December 30, 2022, 10:21:15 AM

however, how is this rotating field supposed to result in stator power output above 100% efficiency? This was the question I wanted you to answer.

L192
Simple and basic answer: No longer involved a very heavy Steel Rotor mass plus copper coils mass, just to carry a weightless, massless Field.

The above brings a LOT of advantages over a Steel-Copper Rotor spinning:

1- No need of a herculean Gas or Diesel engine torque, to force rotor to spin under heavy loading conditions.
2- Physical Lenz Law no longer actuating over the physically spinning magnetically always on, steel rotor.
3- The Magnetic Field itself, can go through steel and copper, just like a very sharp knife through butter and at speeds that any steel mass rotor carrying field could go at.

The problems with these systems that I have observed over a long time, and that Rakarkiy has broought up many times here, is that it is not easy -at all- to be able to engage properly and in a "solid fashion", the Exciting Field with the Output Stator Field, once the later is loaded.

Everytime I have run these devices, I can feel a "slippery clutch" whenever I accelerate the spinning field...which reflects in a current drop on output, as the sinewave decaying on our Scopes.

But I can assure you, that if we find the way to properly engage BOTH FIELDS in a very solid and strong bonding...it would not only be 100% efficiency...but way above that.

Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics

Quote from: listener192 on December 30, 2022, 10:24:34 AM

Well yes in the case of the DZ, only the coils in registration with the rotor did any useful work.


I am sorry L192, but, based on your answer above, you still have not been able to properly visualize how the DZ Generator worked...
So, -IMO- I believe you are visualizing it as a Transformer with Flux-Linking.

The Rotor on the DZ Generator was on the outside, which means that the magnetic field traveled (rotated) through the whole outer steel core in a 360º scenario.
So, yes, Pierre could have done also a full 360º inner output stator, which -IMHO- would have been much better in performance and efficiency, however, this single coil stator did get flux changes at all times (360º) during rotation of the outer exciting field.

Ufopolitics
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listener192

Quote from: Ufopolitics on December 30, 2022, 10:48:51 AM
Simple and basic answer: No longer involved a very heavy Steel Rotor mass plus copper coils mass, just to carry a weightless, massless Field.

The above brings a LOT of advantages over a Steel-Copper Rotor spinning:

1- No need of a herculean Gas or Diesel engine torque, to force rotor to spin under heavy loading conditions.
2- Physical Lenz Law no longer actuating over the physically spinning magnetically always on, steel rotor.
3- The Magnetic Field itself, can go through steel and copper, just like a very sharp knife through butter and at speeds that any steel mass rotor carrying field could go at.

The problems with these systems that I have observed over a long time, and that Rakarkiy has broought up many times here, is that it is not easy -at all- to be able to engage properly and in a "solid fashion", the Exciting Field with the Output Stator Field, once the later is loaded.

Everytime I have run these devices, I can feel a "slippery clutch" whenever I accelerate the spinning field...which reflects in a current drop on output, as the sinewave decaying on our Scopes.

But I can assure you, that if we find the way to properly engage BOTH FIELDS in a very solid and strong bonding...it would not only be 100% efficiency...but way above that.

Ufopolitics




1. You still need an electrical input DC or AC.
2. You still have lenz in the stator coil edges when load current flows.
3. Within the limits of the Hysteresis of the steel.


4. The rotor-stator coupling would still be via an airgap.


5. The rotor coil inductance determines the optimum switching speed, which if you exceed, stator phase output will start to reduce.


Slippage?  Where do you think the flux is going if it is not engaging with the stator? (also considering 5 above)


Sounds like just the usual lenz action to me.


L192

kolbacict

Is this motor suitable for experimenting with Holcomb ?
If you switch coils with a four-phase commutator?

Ufopolitics

Quote from: listener192 on December 30, 2022, 11:10:09 AM
1. You still need an electrical input DC or AC.
No comparison by gas in an ICE, plus all maintenance required...
Quote from: listener192 on December 30, 2022, 11:10:09 AM
2. You still have lenz in the stator coil edges when load current flows.
That would not even affect the rotation of a massless, weightless field.
Quote from: listener192 on December 30, 2022, 11:10:09 AM
3. Within the limits of the Hysteresis of the steel.
The hysteresis actually becomes a hysteria of lenz, not being able to stop the spinning field...it will translate into a "tantrum" as a heavy vibration and humming sound.
Quote from: listener192 on December 30, 2022, 11:10:09 AM
4. The rotor-stator coupling would still be via an airgap.
On this HES and Pierre Cotnoir config, yes...but it is definitively "not limited to"...it could be done on a single steel structure.
Quote from: listener192 on December 30, 2022, 11:10:09 AM
5. The rotor coil inductance determines the optimum switching speed, which if you exceed, stator phase output will start to reduce.
It could be...however, I rather concentrate on Field generation spec's.
Quote from: listener192 on December 30, 2022, 11:10:09 AM
Slippage?  Where do you think the flux is going if it is not engaging with the stator? (also considering 5 above)
Sounds like just the usual lenz action to me.
L192
Nope, Lenz on the electromagnetic reaction, reflects as a rise on the input amperage, after output is loaded...however, if you accelerate Field speed, you will "leave Lenz effect behind"...or "in your rear view mirror"... :D
The "slippage" am talking about, refers after Lenz is behind...and all parameters controlled, including lowering Input Amperage.

Ufopolitics
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