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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

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alan

Quote from: rakarskiy on June 12, 2023, 08:40:12 AM
For a wire in a groove, the EMF transformer formula is used:

E = 4.44Φf, where coefficient 4.44 = 2π/√2

Where do you see the minus sign in this formula, as well as  Е = BLv
2pi*f = freq in radians/s, 1/√2 = rms: 
if Φ=xsin(wt), then E=dΦ/dt=wxcos(wt); w=2pi*f. rms of E = wx*√1/2 = 2pi*f*x/√2 
Minus is Lenz law convention, but should be explained physically.
"Time is better spent on the development and educational course design aspects of excess energy, IMHO."Agree :) a working educational model is needed.

nix85

There, another pest is talking about itself, i would not be surprised if it's the bot itself replying to itself from fake account.
Whoever or whatever it is... with "emotional and/or schoolyard bullying commentary", "insults, sarcasm or mimicry" and ""don't get into an argument with stupid people, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" he, or rather, it, has perefecty described itself.

alan

Quote from: nix85 on June 12, 2023, 08:46:39 AM
There is no A field in these formulas, altho A field is obviously always present.

V=-N*dΦ/dt  is correct 'physically'. There is no length of the wire in that formula, but number of turns. It is the most basic Farady's law of induction.

As i said all induction formulas are saying the same thing in slightly different way

V=-N*dΦ/dt
V = BLv
E = 4.44 * number of turns * frequency * flux in the core

Greater the rate of change of flux greater the voltage.

That is what really matters.

And in the synchronous generator and any generator except homopolar both flux cutting and linking happens.
Force of A that moves the charges is time derivative of momentum, and momentum  is loop integral of A, and A int is surface integral of B. 
A current always creates a field, but a field only creates a current when it changes, but a stationary field always creates magnetic momentum in the wire, aka electrotonic state.

rakarskiy

Quote from: alan on June 12, 2023, 09:30:42 AM
2pi*f = freq in radians/s, 1/√2 = rms: 
if Φ=xsin(wt), then E=dΦ/dt=wxcos(wt); w=2pi*f. rms of E = wx*√1/2 = 2pi*f*x/√2 
Minus is Lenz law convention, but should be explained physically.
"Time is better spent on the development and educational course design aspects of excess energy, IMHO."Agree :) a working educational model is needed.

You yourself answered compare radians and m/s.
How to calculate rad/sec in hertz 1 Hz = 2π rad/s = 6.2831853 rad/s or 1 rad/s = 1/2π Hz = 0.1591549 Hz
Hertz formula in rad/s Angular frequency or angular velocity ω in radians per second (rad/s) is equal to 2π times the frequency f in hertz (Hz): ω (rad/s) = 2π × f (Hz)
Put them in their places. It was my mistake to consider them the same earlier, in addition, I easily translated one into another and calculated the same EMF value for the structures, but in practice it is not.

The minus does not need to be explained, this is the effect on the destruction of electrical potentials by the occurrence of magnetic induction in the conductor.
For generation, this is the reverse process. To calculate the EMF, an extra labyrinth in understanding. But if you know the 3D physics of this process, everything falls into place, starting with Faraday's mistake. He opened the first one and couldn't explain.

Good discoveries!


nix85

Quote from: alan on June 12, 2023, 09:48:00 AM
Force of A that moves the charges is time derivative of momentum, and momentum  is loop integral of A, and A is surface integral of B. 
A current always creates a field, but a field only creates a current when it changes, but a stationary field always creates magnetic momentum in the wire, aka electrotonic state.


When you say A field is time derivative of momentum, it sounds to me like the following sentence from

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_vector_potential

"In the SI system, the units of A are V·s·m−1 and are the same as that of momentum per unit charge, or force per unit current. In minimal coupling, qA is called the potential momentum, and is part of the canonical momentum."

So altho equalizing A field units with units for charge momentum is good, still, such conventional definitions are misleading and incomplete. If you don't get a good, intuitive and practical, mechanical sense of what is happening, that is mathematical jerking off and has no real value.

ALL MUST BE UNDERSTOOD IN TERMS OF UNIVERSAL CURRENTS.

You say A is surface integral of B, according to conventional view B is the curl of A.

And now for the key point, something i shared many times already and user tao has shared in 2007.

https://overunity.com/2814/marcos-dancing-magnets-doing-the-7-8hz-dance/msg41408/#msg41408

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Andersen_AETHER_CONTROL_via_an_understanding_of_ORTHOGONAL_FIELDS.pdf

So, i would rather say A is (toroid) VOLUME integral of the B field, or in other words, what we see as B lines of flux are central axis of the A field etheric toroid.

Now as for your

"A current always creates a field, but a field only creates a current when it changes, but a stationary field always creates magnetic momentum in the wire, aka electrotonic state."

To first clear up when it comes to what creates what, let's make some key things absolutely clear.

As i have said many times, ALL forces and "matter" we perceive are disturbance / slowed down manifestations of higher order universal currents that flow eternally in every point of time-space. It is the omnidirectional pressure, virtual if you like, that can get locally resisted and polarized to create whirls and secondary energy effects of various orders, namely, as i also wrote many times before, great river of One Force cascades down in the following manner...

Magnetism (gravity being a form of magnetism) > electricity > electromagnetic waves (herzian light and heat) > sound > "matter" (slowest, condensed form of One Force).

This cascading fall of One Force is one of great secrets of occult science.

Phylos spoke of it

"For down from His heights, marking the descent by forcefalls as a river marks declivities fin its bed by cataracts, comes this supreme power; comes far, oh! very far, adown its course to the cascades of magnetism, electricity, light, heat, sound, motion and far off where the bed of this Divine stream becomes nearly level, exhibits those little ripples of material differentiation which thou termest chemical elements, insisting on there being sixty−three, when there is but One."

Keely spoke of it and Edgar Hollingshead, (re)discoverer of Odic ray, spoke of it, and his son summarized his great work very clearly and perfectly in this paper in which he confirms the work of Keely and others. Key point being

"It is commonly believed that the force known as magnetic energy is produced out of electricity, but it is unreasonable to believe that we can produce a higher rate of force out of a lower one. We know we can "house in", insulate or confine electricity, but we also know that magnetic energy cannot be insulated or confined, proving therefore, that magnetic energy is a faster or superior force to that of electricity. If we cause electricity to flow through a coil of wire, we resist the flow or retard its action, and reason tells us that we cannot retard the action of the force and at the same time transform it into a higher force of different character.

Therefore, by causing electricity to flow through a coil of wire a vortex of energy is set up which resists the flow of gravitation and transforms gravitation into magnetic energy."


https://www.svpwiki.com/HARNESSING-THE-FORCE-OF-GRAVITY

So, one needs to be careful when making claims as to what causes what, cascading order of One Force is well known to advanced students and it is as noted above.

Also to remind of this great quote from Etidorhpa.

"If a series of knife blades on pivot ends be set in a frame, and turned edgewise to a rapid current of water, the swiftly moving stream flows through this sieve of metallic edges about as easily as if there were no obstructions. Slowly turn the blades so as to present their oblique sides to the current, and an immediate pressure is apparent upon the frame that holds them; turn the blades so as to shut up the space, and they will be torn from their sockets, or the entire frame will be shattered into pieces. The ethereal current that generates the magnetic force passes through material bodies with inconceivable rapidity, and the molecules of a few substances only, present to it the least obstruction. Material molecules are edgewise in it, and meet no retardation in the subtle flood. This force is a disturbance of space energy that is rushing into the earth in one form, and out of it in another."

With all that said, as to your statement

"A current always creates a field, but a field only creates a current when it changes, but a stationary field always creates magnetic momentum in the wire, aka electrotonic state."

To speak precisely, current does not really create a field, current resists the etheric field which is already there (which is itself a slowed down version of yet higher field and so on in russian doll like manner), and result is the toroid A field and its axis which is B field flux lines.

In reverse manner changing A field induces potential difference in the wire and if loop is closed current flows and "generates" its own A and B fields. It does not generate anything, it just polarizes what is already there.

Also, when you say stationary field. Nothing is really stationary, all is in motion, all IS motion. Gravity is matter in motion, magnetic field is matter in motion, electric field is matter in motion....ALL fields are subtle matter in motion, eternally circulating, which is in fact a small-scale trapping of the earth's etheric field, again we see this cascading effect from higher toward the lower, all is made on this principle, one river of light falling from Godhead, from highest to the lowest plane closing the circuit.

So what is really moving in the magnetic field. Contactee Zirbes, whom i absolutely believe says our brothers from Alcyone (Pleiades) told him it is "bubbles of nothing" which are carriers of gravity.

BTW he confirmed the FALLING BODIES THEORY they gave him in the abandoned mine in the 1960s. Here is more about his theory

https://overunity.com/19090/just-another-don-smith-thread/msg567088/#msg567088

And his book which is highly recommended to read

https://www.mediafire.com/file/wy6y9h9uop3ff79/zirbes.pdf/file

Leedskalnin also described small bubbles flowing through the magnet in both directions.

Joe Newman also figured correctly that these tiny bubbles may be seen as tiny gyroscopes.

Etc.

So whatever it is, it is matter in motion. And matter in its finer forms has no polarity, it is neutral and ultimately is nothing but standing waves, for all is vibration of Spirit. So nothing really exists but Spirit.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/

And just like electron plowing through ether creates toroid etheric bubbles A field whose axis are the B field flux lines, so the permanent magnet which is like a resistor for the Earth's Vortexya (etheric field) creates its own A and B field.

And to get back to your last sentence, so, i would conclude it bit differently. "Stationary field" is really a field of matter in very fast motion, both A and B fields which are really two sides of one coin.

If you look at fig1 below, and how "smoke-ring of ether" aka A field aka Magnetic Vector Potential forms around the moving electron, if wire is placed inside this "smoke-ring of ether" electric charge is affected by it, it acquires electrical potential energy, in fact, NOT JUST POTENTIAL as Aharonov–Bohm effect PROVES (diagram below), for electrons are affected by the A field where B and E fields are 0. Well, we don't really need Aharonov–Bohm effect to show us that, as i said before, the mere fact coil "feels" change of flux within it proves it.

In my opinion there is more worth in this one diagram of "smoke-ring of ether" by Rick Andersen from 1998. than all mainstream books and theories. Ultimate model will be proved (already is but not officially) mechanical and exactly or very very closely along these lines of "smoke-rings of ether".

Stan Deyo also speaks of etheric smoke rings and standing wave nature of matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozZy6W4ACJQ

Resistance is the key keyword, the keyword of keywords, for it is by resistance that One Force aka directly undetectable universal currents CASCADES down into gravitomagnetism and further down into lower forces and ultimately 'matter' which is frozen light.