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HES ILPG: Used 50KW, Billed 28KW. Sounds pretty good, I guess it works as claimed
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SL

SL,
Again, they post a "Demand" chart and claim it shows power usage (energy?) savings as well as carbon savings. "Demand" shows a different parameter that is not energy and absolutely unrelated to carbon emissions. I went through this before and posted definitions and links to explain utility power terminology for you. It is indicative of their lack of understanding. They don't know what they're looking at. Heck, demand shows as a line item on my power bill. And it's not the energy.
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FPL (Florida Power and Light)
Understanding Demand [ https://www.fpl.com/rates/understand-demand.html ]

What is Demand?

Demand is a term to describe how much electricity is used at any given moment. Most businesses have a meter that
tracks and records the highest 30-minute level of electricity demand for each billing period. Demand is measured in
kilowatts (kW), while the total amount of electricity used is measured in kilowatt-hours (kWh).

Let's compare electricity use between two customers, as an example. Both customers use the same amount of kilowatt
hours (kWh) - 20,000 kWh - over the course of a month. The first customer uses a steady amount of electricity over the
30-day period while the second customer uses much of the 20,000 kWh in bursts over a few hours per day or a few days
of the month. Although both customers used the same amount of electricity, the second customer would be charged more
for placing greater demand on the system during the short periods of time when their electrical use peaked.

Here's another way to think of demand. Imagine that every business in your area receives water through a standard one-inch
pipe, and that for most of the businesses in your area, this is sufficient. But you have particular needs that require, on occasion,
more water than is possible to deliver through the one-inch pipe. To meet these peaks in your water requirements, the water
company must install equipment (larger main lines, a larger service pipe, etc.) to get more water to you. The added costs of
this equipment are covered by a "demand" charge when you use more water than can be delivered through the one-inch pipe. 

Why does FPL charge for demand?

If your business requires large peaks of electricity, FPL must be able to supply the electricity and have the infrastructure in
place to deliver it to you. To supply the increased electricity, we must build power plants and add equipment to our distribution
and transformer networks to meet your needs. These additional costs are passed onto users with large peaks in demand in the
form of demand charges.

Above is from the FPL website (above).  Not that complicated IMHO. Also explains why FPL might be interested as well.

If this is in error you should contact FPL and have them correct it!

Note that the daily temperatures are included within the chart to show what the Demand might otherwise be. {50Kw max load}

Keep in mind this is only one aspect of the technology involved, however it does demonstrate a very significant application.

SL

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FPL (Florida Power and Light)
Understanding Demand [ https://www.fpl.com/rates/understand-demand.html ]

What is Demand?

Demand is a term to describe how much electricity is used at any given moment. Most businesses have a meter that
tracks and records the highest 30-minute level of electricity demand for each billing period. Demand is measured in
kilowatts (kW), while the total amount of electricity used is measured in kilowatt-hours (kWh).

Let's compare electricity use between two customers, as an example. Both customers use the same amount of kilowatt
hours (kWh) - 20,000 kWh - over the course of a month. The first customer uses a steady amount of electricity over the
30-day period while the second customer uses much of the 20,000 kWh in bursts over a few hours per day or a few days
of the month. Although both customers used the same amount of electricity, the second customer would be charged more
for placing greater demand on the system during the short periods of time when their electrical use peaked.

Here's another way to think of demand. Imagine that every business in your area receives water through a standard one-inch
pipe, and that for most of the businesses in your area, this is sufficient. But you have particular needs that require, on occasion,
more water than is possible to deliver through the one-inch pipe. To meet these peaks in your water requirements, the water
company must install equipment (larger main lines, a larger service pipe, etc.) to get more water to you. The added costs of
this equipment are covered by a "demand" charge when you use more water than can be delivered through the one-inch pipe. 

Why does FPL charge for demand?

If your business requires large peaks of electricity, FPL must be able to supply the electricity and have the infrastructure in
place to deliver it to you. To supply the increased electricity, we must build power plants and add equipment to our distribution
and transformer networks to meet your needs. These additional costs are passed onto users with large peaks in demand in the
form of demand charges.

Above is from the FPL website (above).  Not that complicated IMHO. Also explains why FPL might be interested as well.

If this is in error you should contact FPL and have them correct it!

Note that the daily temperatures are included within the chart to show what the Demand might otherwise be. {50Kw max load}

Keep in mind this is only one aspect of the technology involved, however it does demonstrate a very significant application.

SL

SL,
FPL has it correct. They know what they're doing. It is Holcomb, and you, who don't know.
bi

edit for further comment.
It is entirely possible for two FPL customers to use exactly the same energy (kWh) in a billing period when one had a demand usage of 50 kW and the other had a demand usage of 28 kW. That does not relate to lower carbon emissions, as they claim. Look it up.

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SL,
FPL has it correct. They know what they're doing. It is Holcomb, and you, who don't know.
bi

edit for further comment.
It is entirely possible for two FPL customers to use exactly the same energy (kWh) in a billing period when one had a demand usage of 50 kW and the other had a demand usage of 28 kW. That does not relate to lower carbon emissions, as they claim. Look it up.

It might reduce carbon if FPL doesn't have to build one, or more, Power Plants!

That's where the CO2 is generated, as you know! Not by the consumer...

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This whole idea of Holcomb using FPL charts as a marketing tool is so absurd. Holcomb, the company claiming to have the secret and technology to produce and deliver machines that make free electrical energy, buys their electricity from the local utility supplier. So they want customers to buy these free energy generators from them, but they don't even use them to the full extent now. Big time marketing fubar.
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