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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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listener192

Quote from: skybiker63 on December 10, 2022, 07:35:10 AM
There  is a famous DNV third party verification, do we really need more ?
Beside this, such systems could be tested in battery modus without the grid power...


Holcomb has not released any video of an instrumented test of the DC switched system with batteries.


L192

Ufopolitics

Quote from: Beginners Mind on December 09, 2022, 07:48:06 PM
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1.  The ILPG which HES is planning to market does not at all resemble the generators described in their patents or patent applications.  The ILPG is identical to a fixed-rotor, slip ring motor.  It is powered by 3-phase AC mains, not by pulsed DC as are the generators described in patents and patent applications.  You can deduce this by careful study of public posts by HES.
It is very obvious (at least to anyone skilled in the arts) that if the ILPG is excited by the 3 phase Input from mains...it does NOT requires the DC pulsed Input.

Quote from: Beginners Mind on December 09, 2022, 07:48:06 PM
2.  The ILPG produces a large current gain between the input and output measuring points, verified with a current clamp meter.  This has also been publicly posted by HES.  But the witnesses conclude this current gain is an accompanied by a large phase shift in current with respect to the voltage.
It is also very obvious, that if there is a larger current gain at each peaks (plus and minus) of each of the 3 phase sinewaves at Output, this amplification will induce to a Phase Shift related to Input, since Frequency/Time is the same for I/O.
Therefore, the only way to sync the phase shift difference (from input to output), would be to Increase the Frequency of Output to the point of synchronizing all six sinewaves (3 In-3 Out) by the same time-width.
Still, after any Frequency compensation, the peaks would be higher for Output than Input.

IMHO, it is not such a big deal at all.

Quote from: Beginners Mind on December 09, 2022, 07:48:06 PM
3.  The ILPG does NOT produce more power than it consumes.  HES made an unwitting error, without purposeful deceit, in wiring their input and output power meters.  Because the meters show a power gain, HES is convinced it is real and are proceeding full ahead when, in fact, there is no power gain at all.

When measuring 3-phase power, the voltage probes and current transformer probes for each of the 3 lines must be properly associated when connected to the power meter.  If the voltage and current probes are shifted with respect to each other, the current and voltage phase relationships the meter sees are incorrect and the meter reads false power values. 

Again, the first wrong "assumption" in #2 leads to a wrong conclusion in #3...

HES is just keeping the same frequency at Output (in this case 60 Hertz for USA) in order not to mess any loads with a higher frequency, just to please some readings or satisfy some discrepancy from the critics.

I would not mess -at all- with increasing of Output Frequencies, just to "reconcile" a phase shift.

This phase shift would not mess -AT ALL- any Automatic, self aligned, True RMS Current Clamp Meters.
If we have one meter per each (I/O) phase, they are completely independent from each others, related to -each- currents readings, regardless of any phase shifting, they will measure currents peaks for each phase.

Again, this is just my opinion.

Regards

Ufopolitics
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bistander

Quote from: hartiberlin on December 10, 2022, 07:02:11 AM
Maybe you will come forward with your real name and the real names of these "Anonymous witnesses" to see, if they really have the expertize to measure these things correctly...
Otherwise it is just an Anonymous claim and nobody will believe you...
:o :o :o 8) 8)
Regards, Stefan. (Admin)


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Dear Sir,

I believe him. But then I am anonymous. An anonymous expert in the field of electric machinery, but who will believe that coming from an anonymous source. But look at my posts, recently, on this thread regarding the slip ring motor. I recognized and and called this correctly from the start. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof.

And I have good reasons for remaining anonymous. After years on forums like this, this is my first claim to be an expert. I know I'll regret it as undoubtedly I'll be demanded to prove it. My contention is that you, the reader, consider the content of my posts, not the source. I attempt, to a great degree, to offer truth, fact, and verifiable scientific knowledge and logic and arguments/discussion to apply such. Thank you for understanding my position. As always, and as often done, you, the reader, can ignore or disregard what I offer, truth.

Sincerely,
bi

ramset

Actually
I believe the point here is liability and susceptibility to lawsuits
Anonymous persons can be brought into such lawsuits ( I have recently been told this at Overunity research forum ..


Most definitely admin has placed this ( enabling a lawsuit) issue as a terms of service violation .. to hopefully keep such activities Away from his own assets,
  Defamation Is not tolerated for such reasons!


Hopefully more feedback from happy customers willing to endorse...
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
BTW this is not hypothetical.. it already happened years back at overunity research forum with
Bedini claims and one anonymous members behavior!
Unlike then ( ten years ago ??) today anonymous would not be indemnified through anonymity!(I am told no such thing nowadays...?





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SolarLab

Quote from: bistander on December 10, 2022, 11:16:48 AM
Dear Sir,

I believe him. But then I am anonymous. An anonymous expert in the field of electric machinery, but who will believe that coming from an anonymous source. But look at my posts, recently, on this thread regarding the slip ring motor. I recognized and and called this correctly from the start. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof.

And I have good reasons for remaining anonymous. After years on forums like this, this is my first claim to be an expert. I know I'll regret it as undoubtedly I'll be demanded to prove it. My contention is that you, the reader, consider the content of my posts, not the source. I attempt, to a great degree, to offer truth, fact, and verifiable scientific knowledge and logic and arguments/discussion to apply such. Thank you for understanding my position. As always, and as often done, you, the reader, can ignore or disregard what I offer, truth.

Sincerely,
bi

Bistander,

So what your saying is:

- take a slip-ring MOTOR, and

- physically LOCK the ROTOR.

You claim this creates a GENERATOR that will OUTPUT up to 5 (five) times the POWER
that is INPUT into the motor.

As an "expert in the field of electric machinery" please explain, in detail, how this happens.

A wiring diagram and a physics explaination would be in order for this one. Also, please
relate this back to Holcomb's claimed techniques if possible.

I do have a bit of scientific and engineering knowledge, but the "logic" and "method"
of simply locking the rotor of a motor turns it into a generator, still escapes me.

The "linear sliding magnetic field" part of Holcomb's Patent was analyzed a while back and
presented in an OUR thread, however, the "rotating magnetic field" analysis has not yet
performed by anyone; to the best of my knowledge.

This is why I ask that you provide some of your expert knowledge from the field of
electric machinery.

Thanks in advance,

SL