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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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Ufopolitics


EXCITER FIELDS CIRCUIT OF GENERATORS (NOT CAR ALTERNATORS)

Hello to All,

It is great to have here the attention of so many "skilled in the Arts" Members...or brilliant minds related to deep knowledge about Energy Generation!!
So, I am taking that advantage, in order to address a specific topic about Generators (again, Not Cars Alternators)
And that is -specifically- the EXCITER CIRCUIT of a Home or Industrial Generator:

1-A Car Alternator is very different from a Home or Commercial Generator...and the basic difference relates that a Car Alternator requires a Battery, in order to start generating energy.
While a Home or Commercial Generator does NOT!!
2- A Generator is a completely isolated unit, NOT connected to absolutely any external power supply in order to start generating power.

Of course BOTH Machines require the constant rotation of its Exciter Magnetic Field.

Now, regardless of the type of Exciter Circuit a Generator have, whether Brushless or the earlier models with brushes...they all do the same thing:

Keep the Exciter Rotor powered ON at all times, without any external source, no matter what type of load we apply to its output.

I have not found any literature that only dedicates to a deep study about calculations, formulas, etc,etc, related to just DESIGNING the exciter system of a Generator.

And...IMHO, I consider this circuit the most important part of any Generator design, as it is the one we all should be concentrating on, whenever we are to design any non rotational generator.

If we further analyze this system, independently from the Output Circuit, we realize that it is a completely SELF RUNNER CIRCUIT (ELECTRICALLY SPEAKING), of course, as long as we keep the rotation of the Magnetic Field at constant levels.

But, when we move on to the HES System, we can take off completely the "torque requirements"...just because, we are not rotating any huge mass rotor steel core, and so, by just rotating the Magnetic Field would be a very low Input requirement.

If We could achieve that by just rotating the Massless Magnetic Field our exciting system starts to gain power enough to induce our output coils (just like a typical generator already is designed to do)...we easily will reach Extra Energy, without any doubts.


Ufopolitics
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Ufopolitics


GENERATORS EXCITER CIRCUIT (Cont.)

Hello again,

To put it here in a simple Block Diagram...for much easier understanding.
Plus a further explanation about some basic "technicalities"...

If we look in detail to just the Exciting Feedback Coils in a Generator STATOR...We notice it has fewer turns as it is wound with much finer gauge than Output Coils.
It is also positioned exactly at 90º from Output Coils...I would be guessing here, this is done in order not to Interfere with Output Spacetime of Exciting Field.
So, this Exciter System Operation or "exchange/transfer" is pretty simple to understand...

The Rotor Field Induces the Feedback Coils at a specific Angle of rotation generating an AC Sinewave, then this AC Energy is converted to DC via Diodes and a Cap, to be sent back to Rotor Coils Circuit, in order that by the time-Angle-Spacetime where it hits the Output Coils, it is already energized.

This System starts by itself, based on a small charge on Cap, as also some magnetic reminiscence on the rotor core steel...and starts developing a FULL CHARGE of its Inducing Field very fast...

I have conducted myself many tests while running a Home Generator...I have run outside wires directly from the exciting system brushes to a Volt and an Amp meter...of course, when loading Generator with different, but heavy loads.

And basically the readings were pretty constant...+/-170 Volts and +/-2.0 Amps.


Ufopolitics
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bistander

Hi Ufo,
There is an abundance of hits searching (Google) for generator exciter. I particularly liked the attached PDF.
bi

rakarskiy

QuoteGenerator exciter
The synchronous exciter consists of an inductor, an armature and a rotating rectifier. The exciter inductor consists of a core made of electrical steel sheets and an excitation winding. The inductor is pressed into the generator frame - for generators up to 100 kW, inclusive, and into the bearing shield - for generators over 100 kW.
To ensure the self-excitation of the generator, permanent magnets are installed in the slots of the poles of the core 'inductor. The exciter armature is made of a core made of electrical steel sheets. For generators over 100 kW, the core is cast into an aluminum alloy frame. The armature winding is loose two-layer, laid in the grooves of the core. The winding leads are connected in a star and connected to the clamping bolts of the rotating rectifier. The anchor is mounted on the generator shaft. The rotating rectifier consists of an insulating ring on which the rectifier bridge is mounted and fixed to the balancing ring for generators up to 100 W and in the armature frame for generators over 100 kW.

The main field, which "rotates", is formed from the phase current under load. The causative agent does not form a flow, it provokes it. Basically, a constant flux is rotating in the generator and the stator core is in constant saturation.


Ufopolitics

Thanks Guys,

However, I know all that...basically on a 3 phase system, the Self-Exciting System is more complicated, as it is not part of main stator frame...but in a  separate level, and mounted on the same shaft...yes, I also know some have a belt of permanent magnets (PMG) armature to do the initial excitement on main rotor.

@Bistander: Thanks, very nicely illustrated doc...
@Rakarskiy: thanks, also a nice diagram...

Unfortunately, what I was referring to, was to specifically DESIGN of an Exciter System, and rather start by the simplest one...a single phase home type generator. Where its Exciter System is "built-in" within Stator...well you know, for sake of simplicity to start.

More specifically, since the Exciter Rotor Coils are used for both purposes (Charge and Induce) on a single phase...what are the specifics of their components?

1- What type of wire gauge, number of turns and Resistance/Inductance values on Rotor Exciter Coils?
2- What type of wire gauge, # of turns and end resistance/inductance of Stator Feedback Coils?

Are there any Formulas to calculate those above?

And not talking about the Brushless types, since I consider to be more complex on their design, as there must be resonance points between both Fields in order to function properly as transfer-receive energy flow.

The simple ones, the brushed type...because since we do not have any rotating parts, it would just be wires running from stator coils to exciter coils.

Do you understand what we all need here?

Thanks again

Ufopolitics
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