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[Ufopolitics]

Hello,

It is a very simple process of the exciter system...of course, once we all know how it works...

Quoted segments taken from: https://electricalengineeringdesigns.blogspot.com/2012/07/capacitor-excitation-system-of.html

The rotor is usually of salient-pole construction as described previously, but in this case the rotor winding is shorted through a diode. On starting, the residual flux in the rotor body induces a small voltage in the stator excitation winding and a current flows through the capacitor.

In our case we do not need to depend upon "magnetic reminiscence" or residual rotor core flux...since we will be adding a low voltage 3ph AC signal to Trigger Coils, to create a spinning field. Main point is that a current flows on Capacitor.

This current produces two waves of magnetic flux around the air gap of the generator. One wave travels in the same direction as the rotor, to create the armature reaction.
The second wave travels in a direction opposite to the rotor, and induces a voltage in the rotor windings at twice the output frequency. The current circulated in the rotor windings by this induced voltage is rectified by the diode to produce a dc current.

And here we see that this opposite wave induces a Voltage on the rotor windings at TWICE the Output Frequency.
This Gain Mechanism is just generated in the closed loop of exciter coils plus capacitor, to DOUBLE Output Frequency, without any effect on our Input, just because it is a non directly connected system.

This dc current increases the magnetic flux in the machine, which in turn drives more current through the stator excitation winding, which in turn produces more rotor current. This self-excitation process continues until the flux reaches a point at which the magnetic circuit is saturated, and a stable voltage results.
The process also produces an inherent AVR action, since any load current in the output stator winding induces more rotor current to offset the armature reaction effect.

This is a back and forth gain mechanism, that once we trigger it, it keeps amplifying Voltage plus Currents by our simple rotation of the field.
And whenever we load Output, we will regenerate more power on the exciter to offset armature reaction.

The more I write about these characteristics, the more I feel confident, this is what we all have been missing all along.

Ufopolitics

[kolbacict]

 

[SolarLab]

Hi Ufopolitics,

Interesting discussion and postulation, "exciter system (ES)."

Trying to understand why and how this ES is needed in, for example, the LinGen. The simulation and mock
up doesn't have anything that resembles an ES and it works as expected.

A sliding sequenced magnetic field is generated by the Rotor Coils and enhanced by the B-H effect of the Rotor
Pole material; which creates a magnetic field in the Stator; which, in turn, induces a current in the LAP windings.

The process repeats with time spaced multiple Poles cycling the Rotor created magnetic field.

So, I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing. Input pulses generate magnetic fields which induce current in a coil.

Seems to me that the ES is only needed if there is no magnetic field in the system. But in the HES case there is an
initial, and continous, magnetic field thats sequentially provided by the Rotor Coils and Poles.

Is it possible that the ES requirement only applies to your modified version of the HES scheme? 

SL

PS - Rotor and Stator coil shorting schemes apparently have been used to create excess energy in motor-generator
configurations. I've never look at them closely but they seem to use the "coil/winding shorting" to eliminate BEMF.

[bistander]

Hi Ufopolitics,

Interesting discussion and postulation, "exciter system (ES)."

Trying to understand why and how this ES is needed in, for example, the LinGen. The simulation and mock
up doesn't have anything that resembles an ES and it works as expected.

A sliding sequenced magnetic field is generated by the Rotor Coils and enhanced by the B-H effect of the Rotor
Pole material; which creates a magnetic field in the Stator; which, in turn, induces a current in the LAP windings.

The process repeats with time spaced multiple Poles cycling the Rotor created magnetic field.

So, I'm trying to figure out what I'm missing. Input pulses generate magnetic fields which induce current in a coil.

Seems to me that the ES is only needed if there is no magnetic field in the system. But in the HES case there is an
initial, and continous, magnetic field thats sequentially provided by the Rotor Coils and Poles.

Is it possible that the ES requirement only applies to your modified version of the HES scheme? 

SL

PS - Rotor and Stator coil shorting schemes apparently have been used to create excess energy in motor-generator
configurations. I've never look at them closely but they seem to use the "coil/winding shorting" to eliminate BEMF.

SL,
Refer to previous post of mine.

... The subexciter and exciter are each a generator in themselves, whose purpose is to excite (meaning to power or supply current to) the field of the main generator.
bi

Your power supply and sequencer is your exciter.
bi

[bistander]

kolbacict,
In the diagram, circled member represents the rotor. In a generator, yes it rotates. In UFO's device, maybe not.
bi