Serious Question, Looking for ways to fund development of a new device

[h20power]

This is the type of disinformation I have to deal with as acts like this has cause many to fail at getting this technology to work properly;

A question by Kerrowman, AKA, Jules.
Options 2 is the Ed Mitchell approach to Meyer's system. However, using full ac means that the electrodes are changing polarity with each half cycle so I'm wondering if that is an efficient use of energy. Also, the usual inclusion of a 'blocking diode' will surely block the negative half of the cycle anyway.

Answer by SecureSupplies, AKA, Dan Donatelli.
Options 2 is the Ed Mitchell approach to Meyer's system. However, using full ac means that the electrodes are changing polarity with each half cycle so I'm wondering if that is an efficient use of energy. Also, the usual inclusion of a 'blocking diode' will surely block the negative half of the cycle anyway.  Option 2 is not making gas with ac and ac prevent gtnt being made  option 2 is a waste of study time ac as is the thinking of using  just high voltage, it is about the phase angle  so option 2 is wrong and will never make gas unless the phase angle is learnt through long study

You see this is the very type of disinformation that leads folks away from how Meyer's technology actually works. The main thing about Donatelli is I told him quite clearly that I'd block him from ever being able to make a profit off of this technology due to him constantly stealing the work of others pawning it off as his own and it's clear from his response to this other person that he is pissed at me for doing so as I basically called him a Capitalist Pig.


I may have posted the science behind how this technology works on this forum but one thing I can't fix is stupidity. The both of them think I am pushing a AC waveform to the WFC in using the voltage intensifier circuit which is impossible. Why? Because the blocking diode will simply not allow alternating current. The blocking diode ensures that one electrode is always positive and the other is always negative and I can't help folks whom don't understand the basics of diodes in electric circuits.
 
At first glance the waveform might look like an AC waveform but when one does a circuit analysis of the Voltage Intensifier Circuit that thought is quickly ruled out due to the placement of the diode in the circuit. Diodes aren't known for flowing current in two directions, unless they are known to be broken, as they are known for just the opposite as they allow current flow in only one direction, thus the waveform can't be Alternating Current, IE, an AC Waveform. The truly sad thing is, if they had actually read through the technical brief instead of just looking at the pictures they too would know that Meyer put both positive and negative voltages to the plates of the water fuel cell.

This post was made 21 months ago so this person, whomever they may be, has now been lead away from the truth of how this technology actually works by the owner of Securesupplies. Acts like this is why in a world of some 7.96 billion people I am the only one to have solved just how this technology actually works as there are folks out there that actively lead people away from the truth and with this technology one has to be willing to ask and answer their own questions quite a bit. Unlike most I willing chose to make use of the scientific method and I think it is that that has set me apart from everyone else.


I am sure you are going to run into these kinds of people as you move forwards with the technology you care about just as I did with the one I care about.

[CuriousChris]

My initial glance told me that the waveform was pulsed DC. its pretty obvious to any one with an electrical background.

[Ufopolitics]

For years I have lurked here and occasionally commented usually to call out bullshit claims. However, I have along the way had some ideas of my own which I now find myself in the position of having more free time to develop.

I recently retired from my government job as a cyber security specialist, however I am only borderline financial so can't afford to spend a lot of money developing a couple of my idea's. in other words I have more time than money.

My ideas are...
> an inertial drive
> permanent magnet motor (non electrical)

Its the permanent magnet motor I want to spend my time on.
So I am looking for ideas for how to raise some funding, even if its a trickle to keep things ticking over.

What I am considering at the moment is a youtube channel where I can show the process of designing and building a proof of concept and something like patreon for supporters to donate on a regular basis. however the biggest problem I have is getting a big enough following for it to work.

These systems all rely on social media, however I am not into social media and don't even have a facebook page.

So really looking for some constructive advice if any one has some experience or thoughts to share.

Hello Chris,

I could give you some advice from my end, my own experience...since we have some common goals, as is a Permanent Magnet Motor.

First, in order to gain audience, just a process of design (CAD's all Art work including 3D Animations) will not work, you will need to build a real model, or prototype, which at least shows some movement.
You have to consider the huge amount of FAKE PM Motors that are out there, and specifically on YouTube.

So, unfortunately (not trying to disappoint you at all) but you need to show that your idea is real and that it works.

I have a YT Channel since early's 2000, around 7.25K Subscribers...However, related to "raising funds" is not really a reliable source of income.

I have built and shown a working Magnetic Motor based on Lüling principle (assisted by Pneumatics), where I have a Donation link...
Well, I have not reached the $500.00 so far on donations...and it has like 18.7K views so far...
I also have a Patreon Channel...

So, "Math" like number of subscribers or number of views, really do not guarantee raising Funds, so it could pay for all your equipment and tools requirements...

So, IMHO, You will need to raise your own funds first, at least to build a small real prototype, which works...then go from there into all your design details, etc,etc.

You have something precious and very valuable on your side, which is "Time" my friend...not everyone have it...

There are ways to build money fast, legally and in high levels of earnings...for example taking a short course on Investments on NYSE, basically dealing with Options (Not Stock's, not ETF's)...You could make thousands in hours...or in a week max. And it will not take too much money to open a Trading Account.

It is just an example...my two pennies...hope it will help you.

Good luck on all your goals!!

Sincerely

Ufopolitics

[Tarsier_79]

Hi UFO.

What experiments, modifications and improvements will you do if you get funding?

Chris.

I have seen many people try to use back EMF.

In most motor controllers and motor drivers (including PWM drivers), there is a diode placed backwards across the coil. This diode is not just there to protect the circuitry.

As the field tries to collapse, it induces current in the coil, creating a reverse voltage spike. The current, funnily enough is in the same direction it was originally going. An inductor resists a change in current. The diode then comes into play, closing the circuit so the current can continue to flow in the closed loop, coil to diode to coil etc. This back emf is directly captured here. The additional power from the back EMF is supplied to the rotor, giving the motor more power.

So, capture the back EMF: you will reduce the energy given to the motor, but you will recycle (less efficiently) the lost power back into your battery. I have not seen a setup with a free ride based on back EMF.

[Ufopolitics]

Hi UFO.

What experiments, modifications and improvements will you do if you get funding?

Hello Tarsier,

I am not looking for funding, I was just sharing my experience with Chris, to see if it would help him, somehow.

On this site, Overunity.com, I have not used one single line of text, to ask for a Donation, or asked for Funding...
And I already have a Gofundme link on the Luling Magnetic Motor video, but that is for my subscribers.

There is a huge difference between "Funding" and a "Donation"...and I assume anyone here knows the difference.

On Funding you are "contracting" a "Boss" or in plural...a few Bosses...who will request from you to render results in a specific time frame...in other words, you are now "working for your Investors"...

I work completely alone, and if I ever need some work done, that I can not do it myself, I will pay myself for it, like any sub contracted job.

Recently I spent over $2000.00 in a 4 Channel Scope and a couple of Amp Probes...just to do some testing...
But it is fine, it is required to show clear readings...

Regards

Ufopolitics