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Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!

Started by am1ll3r, March 02, 2023, 07:32:40 PM

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SolarLab

One possible analysis method (easy to set up with good results) uses Solidworks built-in EMWorks. From my experience this
a very good package, especially for initial magnetic problems, and it's quite popular.  ;)   Check around... 

A related video link is found below, however a Youtube search for Solidworks EMS will yield literally hundreds of examples and
tutorials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feqtm4rgY1U

This allows you to quickly varify the theory as well as design your system using software; before spending time and money on a
prototype build. Saves on a lot of hand waving, nonsense and conjecture as well!

Ufopolitics

Hello,

I would like to clear out some errors when interpreting this device, by some comments here I have read from some members:

1-First, the "Director" (which I would have call it "Driver" for better understanding)...is NOT A PERMANENT MAGNET!!
This "Driver" is just a piece of laminated steel, a smaller rotor which "drives" the bigger rotor which DOES have TWO MAGNETIC POLES.
2- And...No!!, We can not "just use ANY PM Motor", and so we will have same configuration!!..NEGATIVE!!
This device needs TWO SHAFTS, One for Input (Driver), Second for Output (Permanent Magnet Armature)...So, the only direct connection between shafts is purely magnetic.
So, if We want to use "any PM Motor", would require MAJOR MECHANICAL STRUCTURAL RECONFIGURATION!!

The basic configuration of this device is to use very low torque at Input to drive the center NON PERMANENT MAGNET BASED Steel driver, called "director"...And so, the Permanent Magnet Armature Rotor would just "FOLLOW" this Driver or "director"...

Also, let me remind you all, that "PM cogging" reduces considerably at higher speeds (It is only critical and lot of drag at very low speeds)...and any Generator requires High Speed which starts at 3000 RPM's (for two poles 50 Hertz)...

Finally, by the Director or Driver being built with NO PERMANENT MAGNETS, PLUS having a smaller Arm length, it will require much less effort to rotate it, rather than, DIRECTLY driving the longer Permanent Magnet based Armature ENGAGING with Stator.

Now, imagine this device installed between a Motor and a Generator... already running at the operational speed (3600 RPM's)...So, once we load Generator, all that mechanical load will completely fall just on the Magnetic Armature Output shaft, and NOT on the Input Driver "director" shaft...

Now, by looking at the way the Stator is designed, where there are almost no gaps when we look at all 3 stators alignment...then the Armature at high speeds, becomes like a Magnetic Flywheel, where the length of its longer arms would be adding the required torque plus inertial mass forces to output shaft.

I sincerely hope all this facts plus clearing up, somehow, contributes to the better understanding of this device.

Ufopolitics
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stivep

Quote from: Ufopolitics on March 07, 2023, 09:13:12 AM
Hello,
1-First, the "Director".is NOT A PERMANENT MAGNET!!
This "Driver" is just a piece of laminated steel, a smaller rotor which "drives" the bigger rotor which DOES have TWO MAGNETIC POLES.
2- And...No!!, We can not "just use ANY PM Motor", and so we will have same configuration!!..NEGATIVE!!
This device needs TWO SHAFTS, One for Input (Driver), Second for Output (Permanent Magnet Armature)...So, the only direct connection between shafts is purely magnetic.
So, if We want to use "any PM Motor", would require MAJOR MECHANICAL STRUCTURAL RECONFIGURATION!!
"PM cogging" reduces considerably at higher speeds, and any Generator requires High Speed which starts at 3000 RPM's (for two poles 50 Hertz)...

Finally, by the Director or Driver being built with NO PERMANENT MAGNETS, PLUS having a smaller Arm length, it will require much less effort to rotate it, rather than, DIRECTLY driving the longer Permanent Magnet based Armature ENGAGING with Stator.//
Once we load Generator, all that mechanical load will completely fall just on the Magnetic Armature Output shaft, and NOT on the Input Driver "director" shaft...
The Armature at high speeds, becomes like a Magnetic Flywheel, where the length of its longer arms would be adding the required torque plus inertial mass forces to output shaft.
Ufopolitics
I was about to compose exactly the same comment.
Thank You very much for that.
Ufopolitics you are  Great thinker

Please note that  inventor employed  geared speed  reducer between his driving motor and the shaft holding "director"
as  very much low speed  expressed   at  mentioned by him  the "sweet spot" makes device  to perform the best. 
look at the picture.
__________________________________________________________

The video clearly shows more energy OUT than energy IN.
But we don't see and don't know and don't understand what that energy comes from.
QuoteEnergy can't be created nor destroyed it can only be converted to another form of energy!!!!!
The gain shown  by inventor may also come from lack of calibration  of measuring device :
link here: Re: Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity! « Reply #117 on: Today at 01:47:22 AM »
or if there is any gain than that gain is not explained and  not protected by the patent.

conclusion:
Something  causes measuring devices to show gain  >1
so it is a need to explain it why?
We saw inventor device under the simulating a load device "breaker" on his video.
We didn't see his device  connected to any generator and we didnt see  IN/OUT P=UxI
where P is power  U is voltage  and I is current
We didn't see his device  acting in  changed speed.
The "sweet spot" of performance directly depends from it.
Notion about " accurate pulse adjustment" is related likely to  motors PWM if such are employed.
video for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGLN2LxwkY&t=51s
I hope it helps
Wesley

stivep

Some observation:
For me interesting is that  given - is not appreciated by you the audience
and that is evident when I or someone gives you great technology for free.
All pressure, criticism,negativism is on me to prove that it works, or you don't want to  even listen about it.
I'm producing  beautiful  pictures with explanation and still doesn't work as if  I was talking to the wall.
As my partner told me today: In the expensive restaurants the average Joe gets  food   he'll  appreciate.

Conclusion:

So I need not only give it to you for free but  provide proof that it works.
but
In this forum Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan, were  discussed and tried and experimented  for years.
Because it was something  you were not given to and you didn't have.
And this discussion here is about patented  device you'll not have unless you pay for it  despite if it is worth something or not.
Sorry to say but this is who you likely  are  excluding few of you.
Wesley

bistander

I thought we were in discussion and analysis to learn something. No requirements on anyone.
bi

Me? I want to learn why Mike thinks there is free energy from that apparatus.

Calibration error mentioned. He could easily swap transducers and verify.