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Magnetic flux motor just patented that creates it's own electricity!

Started by am1ll3r, March 02, 2023, 07:32:40 PM

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Ufopolitics

Quote from: Dog-One on March 04, 2023, 03:25:30 PM
I think UFO is positively correct about the hammering effect and I would
bet if this device was connected to a generator the output waveform would
show it by not being a true sine wave and instead looking more like short
pulses.  As such, it's unlikely you would achieve full output power either.

Looping with the MotoFlux would likely be difficult if not impossible.

I now suspect there's a reason the demo did not have a flywheel
installed on the output shaft, because by doing so, there would be
massive slipping when trying to amplify torque.

Hello Dog-One,

Thanks, however, I think at high RPM's (like required by a Generator, 3600-3000) we will not see any stepping or square waveform or short pulses.
Related to a Flywheel...I believe by adding a flywheel it will completely kill the "hammering effect" (strong force magnetic stepping advance)

Further on, I believe for a Motor-Generator application of this apparatus, there must be several calculations done, one of them being the neo magnets pull force versus the type of generator required spec's (torque) under load conditions.
Plus, on this demo video the armature is based on only a two magnetic pole rotor...and like in any electric motor, the more magnetic poles the higher the torque...but then, the higher the Input required to rotate it from prime mover...

Regards

Ufopolitics
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bistander

Quote from: stivep on March 04, 2023, 06:02:50 PM
I agree to that.
Torque can be divided into two categories, either static or dynamic.
The difference between them lies in the produced effect.
If the torque produces a reactive force, the torque is considered a static torque
.
On the other hand, the torque is a dynamic torque if it produces a rotation.
-but  we have rotation in  the device in  question.
Wesley

I mean really? Torque is torque. Sure, it applies to a static system, or a dynamic system. But torque is the same. Just like force. Applied to static and dynamic systems. And like force, there is always a reaction. Equal and opposite. Look up Newton.
bi

bistander

Quote from: Ufopolitics on March 04, 2023, 05:52:20 PM
Thks Bi,

Now, here I disagree, as we are entering into "power" definition...as it depends on what power we are referring to, example electric power does not require motion when it comes from a battery...
However, coming back to torque and power...yes, you are right that torque bolts down to a Vector of Force and not necessarily to power itself in many applications.

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,
You forget. Electric power = Voltage times Current. Current = Coulombs per second. Electric power has motion.

Power = Volts * Coulombs/second.
bi

stivep

some addition for you to discuss.
At the  end it is a man holding hammer and applying force not the hammer holding man.
Wesley

stivep

For better understanding the picture from above.
-if you have seesaw where  you are in the middle and two identical kids are  on the sides
Try to control  the seesaw from the middle of it.
when kids can do it with their  legs at no problem  at the ends.
The device of an inventor is trying to move shaft  and the the "director"  so in result ends of the  long arm 
704 and 706 coggs
and there are  two of them at opposite ends. so force applied in the middle is x 2
The longer are arms the more force is needed till the arms are infinitely long and power required to move them is increasingly bigger growing to up to infinity .
But magnetic force needed to  perform  cogging reminds  the same.- only length of the arm  704 and 706 has changed symmetrically

Wesley