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ZERG generator nullifies EMF with field, "doubles input efficiency"

Started by Cloxxki, April 13, 2023, 06:07:26 PM

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bistander

Quote from: SolarLab on May 12, 2023, 10:23:13 PM
...
Why do you think these Trolls keep crying for a prototype or demonstration unit or something
a bit more concrete to get their hands on? It sure as hell isn't for "proof of concept" - they've
already been given that.
Read the PDF Warning above...

SL

Hey SL,

Re computers. Ever heard the old saying? Garbage in: garbage out. Might apply. Don't know. But all your computer simulation proves is a computer simulation. I doubt it represents what an actual device will do.
Just put a legal c.y.a. disclaimer on the video and show your in-lab proof.
bi

bistander

Quote from: lancaIV on May 12, 2023, 10:17:28 AM
Hey,bistander
#35 is only (p.s.-)part II

to #33 blue text field  comment/respond-response/counterview !

Good Morning,bistander
Zero force motor....?  The whole purpose of a motor is to produce force (torque).

(torque) not alone,but (torque x RPM),for comparing the measured results,pony brake teste et cet.


In thread title: generator nullifies EMF....? The whole point of a generator is to produce EMF.

Really,not EMF-conversion ? Beside EMF,MMF !

Doubles efficiency....? Currently high quality electric machinery in the kW or larger sizes, at rated, run 90% efficient. 100kW or larger often >95%. Double that to 180-190%? Come on, really?



90% as peak efficiency and the generator its average efficiency ?
Observe the progressive in-/de-crease,Affinity laws !,from energy in-/con-verter,rotative or non-motive

It is a DC or AC output,by AC the positive AND negative magnetic field conversion ?
Lenz and Fleming,ccw and cw





Let's see what this guy has. If he can prove, or convincingly demonstrate something of value, I could be very interested and in a position to invest.

Time will tell and show it what this and other guies/guys has/have re-/discovered 

wmbr
OCWL


Hi lancaIV,
Sorry I got sidetracked. Back to topic.
Electric Motor. Define. Machine (device) for purpose of energy conversion, electric to mechanical. Energy = Torque * RPM * time. Without torque (to get things rolling, soto speak), no energy conversion happens. Obviously torque is essential. Perhaps most essential. And obviously I use torque for the rotary motor, would be force for linear motor.
Electric Generator. Define. Machine for purpose of energy conversion, mechanical to electric. Energy = EMF * Current * time. Without EMF there will be no load current so no energy, no conversion. EMF is needed to "start" energy.

So what sense is a motor without Torque or a generator without EMF? None. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying you don't need motion, or current, or time to actually have a functioning electromechanical energy conversion machine we call a motor or generator. So why do you read that into what I say?

And about efficiency: note that I qualified the figure "at rated". Meaning at rated output it would operate at that efficiency figure, for example. Example: look at the motor (or generator) nameplate. Of course at loads/speeds other that "rated", efficiency will vary. Always does. Fact. And over a duty cycle there will be an average efficiency figure, and over the performance characteristic of the machine there will be a peak efficiency. True. But how does that enter into the context of what I'm talking about? Can you explain how you can double the efficiency of a motor that operates 95% of the duty cycle above 90% efficient? Does that help clear up my previous remark?

Thanks for joining the conversation.

Was it Linderman, or Bedini came up with zero force motor? Yeah, that's been real useful, hasn't it. NOT.
bi


lancaIV

Hello bistander ,
' doubles the efficiency ' is related to :
a.the conventional efficiency from standart NEMA-electric drives !?
b.the grid-controlled steady european 50 Hz = 3000 RPM,60 Hz north-american grid frequency = 3600 RPM

c.electro-magnet incorporated drive without permanent magnets/ drive with permanent magnets

d. as You listen variable speed and torque controler,net-grid DC and or mono- or three or poly-phase AC parameter ( fixed Voltage,fixed Frequency,fixed duty cycle 100%: only amperage as free,on/off switch,factor)

e.displacement current (net-grid surplus provide as negative or positive voltage and negative or positive current delivery ) ompensation (for comerce obligation : feedback cycle )But comerce pays f.eUSA b2b-sector 5¢/KWh,the privates ,b2c,10/15¢ and more per KWh delivery service !

Words,neither my nor Yours shows the application difference by the above incorporated improvements !
Look and compare the used technology  its internal process scheme :

Geral 'power saver'
heatpumps/'inverter'-electric drive
The efficiency improve pioneers like

Subieta-yGarron
http://rac-technologies.de/index.php/history.html
Frank Nola
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=NASA+frank+nola&oq=NASA+frank+nola&aqs=heirloom-srp..

Flynn brothers
https://qmpower.com/


Raser Tech
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=raser+symetron&oq=raser+symetron&aqs=heirloom-srp..

Inrush current/inrush voltage limiter


Which is the real improvement factor in these ' innovations' ?
Calculate the power net input time,pulse ( di-/tri-/,ode gate filter switch ) on,during 1 sec/1 min./1 hour work process ,if not pure DC but fractional power in use !
If not in work process,stand by losts !

Like light dimmer now motor dimmer !

When and how and why could ' inrush current, and inrush voltage maximizing/multiplying ' wishable be !
                                                                         Dirac - EMP - surge/s
                                                                         Dirac-EM-P.ulse Motor Technolgy !?
                                                                         
                                                                         Is 1 pulse 1 signal or two signals  or 1/2 cw and 1/2 ccw ?
                                                                         Vertical,horizontal or diametral im-/ex-plosive/pludive ?
     
                                                                       
                                               4d EE-Reality needs 4d-RealTime Simulation,not apparent 2d/2,5d/3d

Clearly now, known CFL ballast net-grid distortion ,interference from half periods !,grid-independent !
For emergency cases or autonomous living :

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Uninterruptible+Power+Supply.+&oq=&aqs=heirloom-srp..
wmbr
OCWL

e2matrix

Quote from: Cloxxki on May 11, 2023, 05:37:24 PM
A two year old video, in a topic of a new commercial one of which the inventor just joined the discussion ;-)


My point is there seems to be some validity to the concept. 

bistander

Quote from: lancaIV on May 13, 2023, 01:57:07 PM
Hello bistander ,
' doubles the efficiency ' is related to :
a.the conventional efficiency from standart NEMA-electric drives !?
b.the grid-controlled steady european 50 Hz = 3000 RPM,60 Hz north-american grid frequency = 3600 RPM

c.electro-magnet incorporated drive without permanent magnets/ drive with permanent magnets

d. as You listen variable speed and torque controler,net-grid DC and or mono- or three or poly-phase AC parameter ( fixed Voltage,fixed Frequency,fixed duty cycle 100%: only amperage as free,on/off switch,factor)

e.displacement current (net-grid surplus provide as negative or positive voltage and negative or positive current delivery ) ompensation (for comerce obligation : feedback cycle )But comerce pays f.eUSA b2b-sector 5¢/KWh,the privates ,b2c,10/15¢ and more per KWh delivery service !

Words,neither my nor Yours shows the application difference by the above incorporated improvements !
Look and compare the used technology  its internal process scheme :

Geral 'power saver'
heatpumps/'inverter'-electric drive
The efficiency improve pioneers like

Subieta-yGarron
http://rac-technologies.de/index.php/history.html
Frank Nola
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=NASA+frank+nola&oq=NASA+frank+nola&aqs=heirloom-srp..

Flynn brothers
https://qmpower.com/


Raser Tech
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=raser+symetron&oq=raser+symetron&aqs=heirloom-srp..

Inrush current/inrush voltage limiter


Which is the real improvement factor in these ' innovations' ?
Calculate the power net input time,pulse ( di-/tri-/,ode gate filter switch ) on,during 1 sec/1 min./1 hour work process ,if not pure DC but fractional power in use !
If not in work process,stand by losts !

Like light dimmer now motor dimmer !

When and how and why could ' inrush current, and inrush voltage maximizing/multiplying ' wishable be !
                                                                         Dirac - EMP - surge/s
                                                                         Dirac-EM-P.ulse Motor Technolgy !?
                                                                         
                                                                         Is 1 pulse 1 signal or two signals  or 1/2 cw and 1/2 ccw ?
                                                                         Vertical,horizontal or diametral im-/ex-plosive/pludive ?
     
                                                                       
                                               4d EE-Reality needs 4d-RealTime Simulation,not apparent 2d/2,5d/3d

Clearly now, known CFL ballast net-grid distortion ,interference from half periods !,grid-independent !
For emergency cases or autonomous living :

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Uninterruptible+Power+Supply.+&oq=&aqs=heirloom-srp..
wmbr
OCWL

Hello lancaIV,
I never said efficiency improvement wasn't desirable or possible. I said "doubling efficiency" of the subject motors and generators is a total impossibility and a ridiculous claim. The only way one might actually be able to double efficiency in this context is to start with a totally misapplied and unrealistic application.

"Double efficiency" is obviously claim of scam
bi

BTW, your referenced pioneer, Razer Technologies, was a scam. I had interaction with them and associates. They may have started with a shred of valid technology but exaggerated and exploited it vastly to gain political advantage for monetary gain knowing full well they would roll under and stick taxpayers and investors with the tab. That happens when proof of claim is not required.

Let's see proof of double efficiency for a properly applied modern motor or generator.