Water Car technologies overview

[Cloxxki]

Yes, I've been told of a black market overunity deal where a large fleet of MW range devices were built under license. GWhs worth annually. The inventor sold too cheaply and the whole deal has been a pain.
My intermediary to the inventor broke all ties with him, too many lies and smoke screens. He was long convinced of the OU aspect of the devices (commercially deployed, supposedly, in huge numbers), but he only found receipts for about 10% of the claimed own fleet in parts purschases. So do units exist and really do what they are told to be doing for clients? Absolutely no way to buy a unit, it's kept a secret. Packed with camera's and maybe even boobytraps.
I still need to reach out the inventor myself, he has MY writings on the website, but hardly knows I exist. I heard some bad stories and read some BS answers to my questions, so I need to fix that in my mind, else I'll get what I expect and that's not worth getting.

Having done some math on pricing models of devices and licensing, I now realize how amazingly good an OU device needs to be, to be worth it over solar farms, hydro, wind, etc. Especially for the largest market: central power stations that feed the national grids. Countries, especially wealthy ones, have plenty of barren land to smack solar and wind farms on.
For an OU device to make sense on the consumer market, you need at minimum a 20 kW unit that can be ADDED to an electric car. Say, a well designed electric car has a spacious front trunk (frunk). With some redesign of crash structures, the OU device could sit in place of that trunk and keep a smaller high voltage drive battery charged up. A battery such as in common PHEVs, of the 10 kWh range, would suffice for anything but towing and long high speed runs.
In the case of a PHEV car that already exists, the ICE could be tossed and replaced by the OU device, 20 kW but ideally 50 kW, that would be a cost effect way to get this going. When parked, it's a 20 kW power station that sells energy to the grid.

Water cars would make energy very affordable, at least if the drivetrain is exceedingly reliable. If not, it's never going to be affordable or even viable. Once you have a well working water car, you could add a REALLY large tank, placed where BEVs place their 700 kg battery pack. The room is there, it's just water, so no big deal.
Park the car, let the drivetrain run in neutral powering the onboard generator, and sell energy to the grid.
For some uses, the OU device could sit on a little trailer and have a cable feeding to the PHEV battery and keep things going that way. Still, it needs to make sense from a COST perspective. Else, "green" is just not worth it. We NEED the CO2, as famine is going out of control, crops need their CO2 feed.

[nix85]

Like i said overunity black market is HUGE, exactly how huge is hard to know since most of it is secret, it is a detective's work, reconstructing the picture from many bits and pieces.

Take as an example this flywheel overunity serial production, do you think (rhetorical, general question) these people are going serial with it as some scam, no, they are going serial cause it works.

And this kid, he said he was trying for 3 years until he got it to work. (BTW Steven Marks made 200 versions of his TPU until he got it to work) This one is 250KVA powering a factory. He has also smaller models and the smallest one is a modified PMG 1kW below.

These are just examples, obviously flywheel approach is most bulky and very noisy and clearly most don't gets it to work. Even that is delicate.

I heard from some guy in comments below Serbian flywheel overunity that factories have been using flywheel overunity for decades, decreasing power usage like 10 times. Look at those new token bank cards, they have no batteries or solar cells, yet they work indefinitely. Etc. I think overunity is already used on massive scale, it's just officially denied.

My friend brought a new electric car (big one) last year, he got 9000€ discount from the state + charging is for free and i don't think there is a plan to cut that down, so he does not need an overunity device, at least not for now. Of course it would be a nice addition since stations are not everywhere, but anyway.

As for water car, all has been said about that, obviously it would be better than fossil fuels but it is still based on explosion and thus destructive, not aligned with divine principles. Such technology is extremely primitive and in the long run not much better than fossil fuels. Magnetism is all we need. Not burning fumes.

And obviously, a relatively small overunity generator can charge an electric car over night, or batteries for powering your home. Average household uses little over 1kW on average, so, all is clear there. I studied voltage controlled switches and charging regulators few years back when i was hoping to succeed with a 1-2kW generator which would charge solar batteries. Nothing more is needed than 1kW, except of course if you got superlarge surges that go over the battery capacity or you want to charge the car fast.

As for CO2, plants have been getting enough of it for billions of years without the help of octane engines, besides the pollution of carbon monoxide and lead etc is surely not helping the environment.

EU gives final approval to 2035 ban on sales of new fossil fuel cars

[Cloxxki]

With the bank cards, isn't the power supplied when swiped?

Military war crime secrets are all available to us, patriot soldiers obtain documents and leak them. Most leakers know in advance they'll be paying with their life, or they take their own to save their family the disgrace.
Why can't this forum's members obtain the missing ingredients to getting these famed inventions to work? So so many people would be working at these projects. However overunity and cheap, it still takes manpower to manage its generation and distribution. If you have a large factory, yes you can build or buy an OU genset and pretend to be greening up, buy less and less from your grid. Install some (fake) solar arrays, anything to be plausible. But to SELL your energy...that's super hard, around the world. You're not supposed to HAVE energy to sell. Just like you're not supposed to have a cure for cancer or diabetes. It officially doesn't exist, so you can't sell it. If you had it, you'd have it all tested and validated, right?
But with the cures, we CAN read how they work. It's all public. Those inventing it, are healers.
Black market OU...why isn't a rogue employee trying to sell us schematics? Offering to build us a working setup on our premises, no cure no pay?

To understand such "black OU market" better, will allow us to access and crack it. We just need the most power dense (by weight) OU tech there is, validate, replicate and then ENGINEER to be even better. Whether inventors wanted it open source or not, we can make it public at least. Even if they have a patent explaining hardly anything at all, we can publish how it really works. The inventor can then scramble to prove that they had the same thing all along, rather than now claiming our work as theirs.
We need to understand the top OU principles, so we can counsel builders on how to modify their cars, gen sets, etc, to get the maximum result.

Using 10x less energy...makes me wonder. Why was 10% still needed? I am unable to come up with a COP that would be able to reduce energy demand from external sources by 90%, but not be able to loop itself to reduce external demand by 100%.

Flywheels are bulky, but there's an industry that downsizes them. Smaller flywheels, denser high tensile materials, higher rpms. Counter-rotating removes pesky gyro effects. How heavy could a flywheel system reasonably be to still be acceptable on a donor PHEV car that was 1700 kg without ICE? With some suspension upgrades, pretty heavy actually. Modern full size BEV and PHEVs are in the 2100-2800 kg range. A 2500-2600 kg Tesla Model X or NIO ES8 type BEV could drop 700 kg from the drive battery, add 100 kg for a small "hybrid" battery, and then have 600 kg left for a 50 kW sytem to put under the hood. If it has to be 1500 kg, it can go in a trailer. 50 kW still suffices.

For industrial use, weight doesn't matter, only cost per GWh, spread over a decade or so.
It's hard to imagine though, that it would be too heavy for use on a semi-truck. The Tesla Semi has a 850 kWh battery. That's several tons. If the OU system weighs the same, it can work just fine with 250 kW continuous. With 500 kW peak, it would be total dream system already.

If there is a black market, we need to know what the best systems are, and how they work.
Just to "know" OU is real and that there's a black market, serves no-one.

[nix85]

Not credit cards but security token cards. I've been using mine for almost 10 years, no battery, no solar cells. It's always fully charged. I am sure it has a small coil, like small TPU that resonates with gravity or similar principle. Your question has already been answered. "It is just that by Divine Will overunity and degravitaion will not become mainstream until humanity is ready for it and until humanity deserves it.". Secrets are already out and obtained by many, but loop goes back to Divine Will, can't be public before it's destined. Nothing is really hidden, future will show you that dozens, hundreds of actual overunity principles have been revealed here over the years. But people don't recognize and just dismiss everything. I did not say anything about selling the energy like electric companies do. All i said overunity black market is HUGE, meaning overunity is used on massive scale. Government is admitting they have downed ET craft and bodies etc, nothing strange about overunity black market being huge. We don't need to access and crack black market, nothing is really hidden. Top OU principles are already understood by some of us and shared here over the years. Nothing is really hidden. As for 'Why was 10% still needed' good point, i was thinking exactly the same. I was just conveying what that guy wrote in the comment. If input is reduced 90% they should definitely be able to loop it. Maybe they don't want to loop not to attract unwanted attention so they are happy just to reduce the bill. Of course that for industrial use, weight doesn't matter, only cost per GWh. That's why they killed the SGWN, that is an example of a system for true industrial use, bulky but powerful. And i am 99,9% sure it used the basic Skinner principle, that cone perfectly fits. And all these principles i shared, mechanical and solid state. Obviously flywheel method is not suitable for cars, there are so many better methods than flywheel and large flywheel in a car could be very dangerous. Just turning corners might be impeded by gyro-stabilization effect. Flywheel is the most primitive of all overunity methods. Whoever wants to succeed needs to pick a principle he/she believes the most and pursue it relentlessly. But problem is almost no one sees. One needs to operate from higher energy level, and higher energy level is reached by relentlessly pursuing deeper understanding of all involved phenomena. That is how we 'earn' right to see. So there is definitely a black market and it's huge and no, we do not need to know it, it is absolutely irrelevant. More than enough has been available for decades (and even centuries now) that anyone intelligent who did his research cannot have doubts and has more than enough to reconstruct the puzzle. Black market is 100% irrelevant. One needs to rise to higher level and do it. One just needs to look into it intelligently and seek better understanding and eventually secrets are revealed. Nothing can be hidden from one who is seeking sincerely and persistently. Great is the irony of what you write, for solutions are literally poking you in the eyes, you just need to see them. As for public disclosure/standardization, that is fully determined by Average Joe, and more precisely, by Divine Will.