Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of this Forum, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above
Thanks to ALL for your help!!


Inductor charging - stupid question

Started by fxeconomist, July 16, 2023, 11:34:30 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

fxeconomist

Sorry for this guys, but I really need to know...

As I understand, an inductor acts as an open circuit while it charges.
Now, as the current doesn`t actualy flow thru it while charging, can it actually charge while the circuit is open ?

I am looking to pulse current for less than it is the full cycle, but pulse it with a single wire from a PWM pulser. So on one side of the inductor the wires connect from both inductor ends to the load, on the other side of the inductor one wire would go to the pulser. We pulse for less time than it takes the inductor to charge - and since it acts as if the circuit is open, it should not care if it really is. On the end of the pulse inductor should deliver full inductive kickback to load while not endangering the pulser. Can this work ?

bistander

Quote from: fxeconomist on July 16, 2023, 11:34:30 AM
...
an inductor acts as an open circuit while it charges.
...

Incorrect premise.
bi

fxeconomist

Mm, so disappointed. I was hoping it works this way, cause I don't know how to protect the PWM pulser from the spike while delivering the spike to the load.

tinman

Quote from: fxeconomist on July 16, 2023, 12:53:54 PM
Mm, so disappointed. I was hoping it works this way, cause I don't know how to protect the PWM pulser from the spike while delivering the spike to the load.

When your PWM switches off (becomes open circuit), the current flowing through the inductor will continue to flow in the same direction, but the voltage across the inductor will invert. If you run a wire from the positive output of your PWM to the negative side of your load, and then series connect a diode between the negative side of your pwm output, to the positive side of your load, the load will clamp the inductive kickback spike, and will keep your pwm safe, provided your load is sufficient to do so, and you place the diode in the correct flow position.

QuoteAs I understand, an inductor acts as an open circuit while it charges.

Yes and no.
This is a tricky one, but the overall result is that it does take energy to !charge! an inductor.
By charge, i am guessing you mean-to build the magnetic field around the inductor.
So here is where it gets tricky. It does not take energy to build the magnetic field, but energy is transformed into heat due to ohmic losses in the inductors windings resistance, and a small portion to eddy currents, due to the changing magnetic field. It is actually the building magnetic field that slows the buildup of current flow through the inductor (CEMF). If there was no changing magnetic field, the current flow through the inductor would reach it's maximum value instantly. It also takes no energy to maintain a magnetic field. All constant energy flowing through the inductor is transformed into heat, through the same ohmic losses.

Hope that helps.

fxeconomist

Quote from: tinman on August 20, 2023, 12:19:36 PM

Hope that helps.


Thanks! But given the difficulty of all of this, I decided for a change. After I made the unipolar generator and managed to read the amps in mid june, I've had a lot of troubles and misfortunes. Installing a coil in the middle of the generator is really something difficult. So I decided to alter the experiment, and instead of a coil, I will use a capacitor. It won't be as good, it will not give the voltage I wanted but much less, and filtering with diodes will not be possible, but perhaps I'll get to see something on the oscilloscope - if the dielectric induction synergizes with the unipolar induction.