Tommey Reed's Water Experiment To Create A Fuel?

[picowatt]

Hi All,

Update on making a bigger plasma reactor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84pBXak2khc

Tom

Tom,

I do not like your vacuum idea!  You are begging for O2 entry thru any small leaks, or catastrophic container/gasket failure. 

I'd rather you consider a sealed system and purge the system with inert gas (nitrogen, etc) prior to reactor startup.  I'd put a low pressure regulator at the reactor output (a few PSI at most) and a lower pressure regulator at the point of use.  This ensures there is always a small positive pressure inside the reactor and the fuel carrying lines at all times, preventing any ingress of atmospheric O2.  Please be careful, as you inferred in the video, bad things could happen.  It was always ill advised to pressurize HHO gas to any degree, not sure what the story is regarding a mix of H2 and CO.

Your carbon rods will decay relative to the rate of CO production.

Several decades ago, Renault had a patent on a hydrogen generator that did actually operate a small vehicle.  They used a spool of aluminum wire fed thru what was basically a MIG gun tip.  The AL wire contacted a rotating corrosion resistant metal drum.  Everything was submerged in a tank of water and current passed between the AL wire and the rotating drum.  The arc produced pure H2 and AlO2.  A wiper kept the drum clean and high water flow and filtration was used to keep the ALO2 from fouling up the works.  The aluminum is consumed/converted and recoverable/recyclable as ALO2, which does have some value (particularly if kept pure throughout the process).

The use of carbons as you are doing provides more fuel as you produce both H2 and CO.  However, I am concerned regarding the safety of long term storage, or even continuous operation, with these gasses combined/mixed as they are.  Decomposition of the CO in the tank or fuel stream could be dangerous.  I would want to make sure any materials used (tank, fuel lines, requlators, valves, etc) do not react with or be somewhat of a catalyst toward decomposing the CO.  Hydrogen embrittlement can also be an issue with H2.  I do not know which materials (metals or diaphragms and seals) would perform best (and safely) with these fuel gasses.

When combusted, the CO will produce CO2 at the exhaust, so not as green as pure H2.  The cost of your carbon, water, and electricity use will determine your "fuel" costs.

Scary stuff...

PW

Added:  Make sure your working with good ventilation and keep a CO detector close by.  Don't be inhaling the stuff.  Your fuel stream will be highly toxic.  Even a few good whiffs at your fuel's CO concentration could inert quite a few red blood cells!

[TommeyReed]

Hi Picowatt,

Thank you for your insights.

I also agree vacuum is very tricky in this set up, I would need a much better containment before doing a vacuum. I did read about keeping it under a low pressure.

What is your opinion mixing HHO together with carbon monoxide and hydrogen feeding in a engine from the intake?

My basic understanding is instead of H2 + O (HHO), would it not be H3 + O and cause the burn rate to slow down to run in a engine?

Tom

[ramset]

Tom
Sergh had shared this recently,(I see Massive had also shared some measurements on
Capacitor discharge above ..post 17 ? I believe? 225kw @ 1microsecond on a 30KV pico cap ?


Sergh
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DIY Project: Using a discharge in water to propel a rocket:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE)


Another videos the same autor:


https://www.youtube.com/@The141335/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@The141335/videos)
The peculiarity is that the discharge gap in the water is initially short-circuited with a thin wire or foil. This is done because it is difficult to achieve breakdown in water at a relatively low voltage. Even at a voltage of 10 kilovolts, breakdown occurs at a distance of less than a millimeter. Dr Jaynes also talks about this problem in the video at Wesley's links. Kolbacict wrote here that he also encountered this problem. This is extremely inconvenient if you have relatively low-voltage capacitors at your disposal. Therefore, a jumper made of a thin conductor is used, which burns out and initiates an arc.
There was such a topic  "explosion of thin wires in water (https://www.google.com/search?q=explosion+of+thin+wires+in+water)
", they also wrote that there was an anomalous release of energy.
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High voltage discharge
Definitely worth further investigation


Respectfully
Chet
Edit for Norman comment below
Repost:
http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm


Yes was posted in another water fuel topic very recently ( Russwr?)
Tommy has been doing experiments on this recently.


If you have any links on trucker ( not HHO enhancer kits) running on bingo fuel or other water
Derivatives?
Please share .

[norman6538]

Naudin ran his welder making Bingo Gas with the carbon arc made gas looped back into the ICE about 15 or more years ago.....

Naudin went quiet and I thought folks would pick up on that....

I met a trucker who added an extra alternator and added the hydrogen and oxygen
back into the engine giving better mileage and also less tear down time which is real money to a trucker.

Norman

[massive]

These formulas do NOT contain (R) Resistance

Capacitance x volts = Coulomb charge
.5 x capacitance x volts squared = stored energy in Joules
Joules / time = Watts

This is just an example of Fred Niell. The formulas are worth thinking about. The end result is Watts and it is NOT electrolysis.
Google each formula, there is only 3, they are tied to each other by a component. Capacitance, Volts and Joule.
e.g.  500pf, 30kv.   
Charge = Q=C.V = 15uCoulomb
stored energy = .5 x C.V^2 = .225 joule
power dissipated = W = j/t = 225kw @ 1u sec

The smaller the time of discharge, the more watts, much like a lightning strike. There is no RC time constant because there is no Resistor.

Most guys just refer to watts as volts x current input, as applied to electrolysis.