Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[hartiberlin]

the best so far is a ratio of 3:2, or 1.5:1.  That is for every 1 turn of motor coil you need 1.5 turns of the generator coil. (the geometry magnetic fields, and coil wire resistance will affect things greatly - what Alexander found was for a commercially available motor generator that he rewound)

@DMBoss,
many thanks for this insight.
Yes, I also think it has to be the right impedance and coil turn number
setup to work in a selfrunning mode.

Do you also think, that also other coils can be used?
Normal coils with just a bigger inner diameter ?

Also can this only work in aircore coils or can also
iron or ferrite cores be used for even more efficiency ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[Omnibus]

Hi Stefan,

Do you know where the inventor Mike is located so that one can visit him, if it's OK? Also, it seems that the motor should be placed in a Faraday cage to avoid the speculation that it may be tapping into the local radio station as energy source. Remember the recent flop with that guy from Australia (or New Zealand, I forget).

[neptune]

For reasons best known to himself, Mike is absent for the time being,meanwhile others inluding me are replicating, or will be soon. Ther are still things we are not sure about. Firstly, is the relay supposed to operate the same number of times as there are magnets on the rotor. Secondly, what is the mark space ratio of its on/off times.It would be fairly easy to omitt the relay, and do the switching with a form of commutator, on which you could vary both the timing and pulse width. Only real tests would determine if this would work.According to a posting on the GnOsis site, several replications of mikes work have been acheived. Can anyone show a link to the videos? I am doing my best to be patient. I have some of the gear ready to start building, but being busy at work, I really need more info to justify spending precious time, tobe in with at least some hope of success. Just like many others I guess. Any help with my Questions? Please.

[fesearcher]

Hi to all,
this is my update to my window-motor:
I have just altered a fiew things to dramatically improve it.
First I replaced the porous bearing with a high efficient low loss ball bearing.
Second I replaced the coil using only 0,25mm copper wire.
The coil is made of:
fist winding has 1000 turns (for trigger)
second and third winding are true bifilar about 3750 turns, each.
(concerning the original circuit of the bedini cole motor) I replaced the input transistor at the trigger coil with a BS 170 V-MOSFET and the 1N914 diode with a 6,2V Z-Diode parallel to 10k the 10 ohms has now 1k. This decreases trigger current more than 100 times!! PNP is BC640-16 and NPN is BC639-16.

I have not build the solid state circuit with hall sensor. The third coil is connected to bridge rectifier but there is no different if third coil is used or not!
At 12V the motor does 215 RPM.
66000 ?F Cap used.
MEASUREMENT:
12V supply connected to cap motor startetd by a slight push and speeds up to 215 RPM.
Then 12V supply disconnected!
Time until total stop of rotor measured:
With all coils connected at circuit motor needs 275 seconds
Without coils connected motor need 59 sconds to stop!
Vast difference!
All measurements are validated by several trials.
This shoes even motor does not run itself at the moment, energy is gained and stored back in cap.
(New motor design -> see picture)
PK

[hartiberlin]

Corona wrote:
My relay is also rated as zero switch on, but definitely does switch on half way through the pulse, probably because the pulse height is small enough for the relay to call is zero.

Hi Corona,
that is very interesting.

As these SS relays probably have voltage comparators
with thresholds
in them, the SS Relay will switch probably at the lower voltages around zero to maybe 10 to 12  Volts.
This is probably the "window" in which the SS Relay works
and switches on, when it gets a pulse from the hall IC.

As Mike said it levels off at around 12 Volts,
this could be the voltage level, where the SS Relay does
not work anymore , because it is a "zero switching type"
and thus the voltage is then higher as the " zero window" and a pulse of the hall IC does not fire the SS-Relay on,
so the voltage does not rise much anymore higher
at Mike?s cap then.

So if he would have used a different SS Relay or a reed relay switch for it, he could have probably increased the voltage much more on his cap with longer run times !

His Hall IC parts failure was probably then more related to the
negative voltage spikes destroying the the transistors
in the Hall IC.


Regards, Stefan.
P.S: Mike and Corona, in which direction do your spikes go ?
Positive or negative ?

I really want to know, if I was right, that Mike?s
posted scope shots were inverted... thanks.