Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[Rosphere]

Stefan,

Please ask Mike if alternatives to this Crouzet relay device can be used.

This component seems, "oddly specific."  There are many makers of relays.  Perhaps others will work as well?

Also, instead of showing a black-box schematic to this device, may we see the relay details in recognizable schematic form?

Oh, and if it is all here, somewhere, then please just tell me that need to develop a flair for the obvious. 

Thanks,
Rosphere

[pese]

this is only optocoppler (led to triac /scr)
you can do nothing with this in "bedini?s"
ciruits.
Pese

Here are the Bedini Circuits again:
http://pixerve.de/42507/pese.html
http://pixerve.de/42508/pese.html
Many Ywars in my URK

[barbosi]

Might be interesting though to check with other switches, especialy with CMOS transistors (http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/4125) instead of thyristor at the output.
As is known, a thyristor uses a negative resistance region and it would be interesting to know on the same circuit what is the contribution of ss relay, beside Bedini-Cole efect and/or Mike efect.

Thanks for sharing, this very generous from you Mike. Let open-source prove its power now.
Peace.

[pese]

@ barbosi

you cant use this solid state relais at this DC ciruiits .
Also not an 12 Volt
also the are not fast enough.
real contact relais are not to replace
in some circuits !

This MSC Cmos Opto -Relais are designed for kogic circuits (are fast , but can only used at about 100mAmps. !!!!!   
IT IS  "DC" BUT : TO WEAK FOR  BEDINI CIRCUITS

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That "negative resistance" from SCR is unknow to me .
I have "invented" the Negistor , Jears before "Popular" Electronics have copied this
from ELEKTUUR , Nederlands , /that was described from me as : "S?gezahn-generator"
If you know more , pls mail to me (see Profil)
G.Pese

[barbosi]

@ barbosi

you cant use this solid state relais at this DC ciruiits .
Also not an 12 Volt
also the are not fast enough.
real contact relais are not to replace
in some circuits !

This MSC Cmos Opto -Relais are designed for kogic circuits (are fast , but can only used at about 100mAmps.

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That "negative resistance" from SCR is unknow to me .
I have "invented" the Negistor , Jears before "Popular" Electronics have copied this
from ELEKTUUR , Nederlands , /that was described from me as : "S?gezahn-generator"
If you know more , pls mail to me (see Profil)
G.Pese

By solid state I didn't mean coil&contacts.
For a regular Thyristor the negative region is shown in first picture.
Source: http://www.eng.uwi.tt/depts/elec/staff/rdefour/ee33d/s4_tchar.html

For optic thyristor, see the pdf file, page 3, fig 1.
Source: http://www.opticsexpress.org/viewmedia.cfm?id=119186&seq=0

Regards