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Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

Started by hartiberlin, February 14, 2007, 08:30:03 PM

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grunff

Quote from: Omnibus on February 20, 2007, 05:54:53 PM
The best way to understand this is to look at omnibus.fortunecity.com/smot.gif.

The gravitational potential energy spent is mgh1 while the gravitational potential energy lost is mg(h1 + h2), that is, greater than the gravitational potential energy spent which is a clear violation of the principle of conservation of energy. All this in a closed loop in the magnetic field which means that no magnetic potential energy has been spent or lost.

The above statement makes zero sense. If you'd like to discuss this further, how about explaining, step by step, what you think is happening.

bitRAKE

Omnibus, if the metal sphere can be stopped above H1 and beyond the field m>g then a simple ladder will complete the loop. Mainstream science states this cannot be done. Stopping the sphere below H1 is not proof of anything.
Energy might not be FREE, but the universe has been building it up for billions of years - the fact that we exist means it is availble to us.

Omnibus

@Stefan,

Technical details and measurement discussion isn't occurring properly, as you can clearly see, because there is a widespread misunderstanding that what matters is to have a self-sustaining motor and mothing else. You yourself asked several times for data but to no avail.

My point is to have more details and data even if no self-sustaining device is available yet. I have no desire to discuss the essence of SMOT here (there's not much to discuss about it anyway; violation of energy conservation by SMOT is evident). I only used it as an example of a device clearly demonstrating violation of energy conservation without being a self-sustaining one so that those replicating Mike's device would feel encouraged to post actual data.

Omnibus

@grunff,

Not at all. I'm not going to do this. I've said enough about it and it's up to you to understand it. Besides, this is not a thread to discuss evident things. This is a discussion of Mike's device and I used SMOT only as an illustration of how a device can violate conservation of energy without being a self-sustaining one.

Omnibus

@bitRAKE,

?Omnibus, if the metal sphere can be stopped above H1 and beyond the field m>g then a simple ladder will complete the loop. Mainstream science states this cannot be done. Stopping the sphere below H1 is not proof of anything.?

This is evidently wrong and I?m not going to discuss it here.