Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[tonyc]

I think he just wound all 3 wires together onto a former without twisting them together first.

Tony,

I agree with you. But it looks like (and makes sense) that he twisted and soldered the one end together so they wouldn't separate or slip while winding.

btw, the wires do not have to be twisted to be considered bifilar or trifilar. As long as they are wound together. They can be wound in parallel rather than twisted to each other too.

Hi Darren , thanks for clearing that up , I wasn't sure if they needed to be twisted or just wound together.  I just came in from winding my coil by twisting the wires together as I went..took me 4hrs. Wish you had told me 4hrs ago that it wasn't necessary to twist them first :-)
Oh well , I am happy that all 3 windings show around 35ohms , so no shorts or breaks hopefully.

I have pushed a piece of brass tube into the gap on each side of the coil , this is to protect the coil wires in case rotor shaft rubs on them. Will this cause me any problems?

Cheers

             Tony.

[z_p_e]

Hi Tony.

Sorry you had already wound your coil...oh well, you'll have tighter coupling and a tighter wound coil-mass than most others. There's no reason to believe that this is a problem though, so hats off to you. Maybe you could send a pic?

Did you wind with the rotor in place, or insert it after as I suggested to Peter? Aside from taking 4 hours, how was it?

I don't think the brass tubing is going to interfere any more than a steel shaft will, and we know Mike used a threaded steel rod.

What size of wire etc?

Darren

[z_p_e]

I'm asking for help here guys, because I'm confused.

First there is this video from John that seems to verify the window motor can run on its own:
http://video.google.com/url?docid=-8484430750184911575

Then some time later we have John coming back with another video claiming that Mike faked his motor, and that he was cheating by using a hidden battery.

So John has at least 2 videos now showing his window motor running on nothing but a capacitor, yet he says Mike's is a fake.

Could someone clue me in please?

Why aren't we all building John's version of his window motor if it already is a self-runner?

Darren

[SPP-48]

Hi all

Please pardon my ignorance in these matters. Never having used an oscilloscope before, (I am an architect) I just bought a USB type and have been learning to use it.

I connected it to my motor using the previously posted diagram below.

This is what I got. It looks nothing like Mike?s shots, but It does have some rather large spikes every 3 or so cycles. The motor was running on a 5v battery and the spikes show at 21v on the scope. It didn?t make any difference if the hall sensor and SSR relay were operational or not. (I don?t have the Crouzet yet and was using another SSR).

What does it all mean !!!!!

Cheers


Sam

[Peterae]

Dont know if this helps, but mike said 3 magnets in triangle shape for hall sensor, run as a motor with battery, then alter the timing untill very little power is drawn from battery.

Hi Darren
I have asked myself the very same thing, why are we so excited about mike's motor when John Bedini has a worker, Strange really cant tell tell you the answer.
I think John was just saying it could be Faked, i suppose you have to keep an open mind, i for one think Mike did get it working, there are going to be people that dont think that and people that are in the middle, John probably cant work out how it works(with regard to his own)so has doubts as to if it works.
But John has replicated Mike motor and is studying it.