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Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

Started by hartiberlin, February 14, 2007, 08:30:03 PM

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z_p_e

Guys,

I'm convinced that there is an error in Mike's drawing, and that is where he placed D2.

D2 should be sourced from the bottom of L2, not the top. Spikes from the top of L2 actually oppose the positive spikes induced in L3. This tends to counteract the charging effect on the capacitor.

Do a test by scoping the output of the FWB WITHOUT a capacitor load. Place a 1k Ohm resistive load if you like and monitor the difference when D2 is sourced by the top or bottom of L2.

Note that in the pictures we have of Mike's motor, we can not see where D2 is being sourced from.

Darren

@Peter.

Looking forward to seeing what your coils measure out to be with your new meter ;)

CTG Labs

Hi Darren,

I posted a picture a while back which was a shot from Mikes video which shows the diode coming off the bridge and it was the same way round as the diagram.

Therefore:

- Either something else in his diagram is wrong.

- It was an oversight in his fake.

- Something unknown is going on with this odd configuration.

Of course, there is no knowing what the other end of the diode in the video is connected to!


Regards,

Dave.

Peterae

It looks to me if you follow the diode connection of the bridge, it is connected to Gen -  on the strip.The other end of the diode is 1 of the thick black wires works it's way around the back to the SSR.
The diagram is indeed wrong ,Winding 3 is connected the wrong way round in the diagram.

Actually i cant see a diagram that shows the polarity of the Gen winding LOL, but it is the oposite way you would think it drawn.

L2 wiring looks correct to me if you follow the Red lead from the SSr it goes to Main+

z_p_e

Hi Dave.

The bridge end of the diode connection is not in question. It is the source end that is...or was.

Upon closer examination of the photo showing Mike's setup with the new white Crouzet relay, one can conclude that the diode is in fact sourced from the Main+ end of L2 as per Mike's drawing. So I am wrong.

A black and red wire can be seen coming from behind the relay. The red goes to the Main+ terminal on the terminal strip (see my annotated photo, earlier post), and the black goes around back and appears to connect to the end of the diode which the other end is attached to the bridge.

This being the case, I have a theory about L2's actual function in the process, which I'll think about some before I post it. In short, L2 contributes nothing  or very little "electrical" to the charging of the capacitor.

Darren

Peterae

Also if you study the picture composed of bread board and strip (the picture made up of 5 pictures)
Note the colour of the crock clips on the bread board, now check the crock clips out on the proto board with the earlier picture where there is no SSR , they are different order even tho the crock clips on the strip board are in the same place.