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Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

Started by hartiberlin, February 14, 2007, 08:30:03 PM

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gn0stik

This is amazing to me. I have no idea how he found my site then. I thought everyone that was at gn0sis had to have come from here at one point or another. My site doesn't show up in google on the first page. I've never been interested in having my site extremely active like this one. I just cant figure out where he came from or how he found my site if he didn't come from here.

Peterae

Rich
I will look back over the film tommorow, it should alter my diagram, as some assumptions were placed how the SSR was connected to the Gen winding and the diode, but the fact the SSR was not connected correctly means there must be another hidden wire connected to the GEN winding to replace the path from the SSR.

Peter

z_p_e

In light of the new information recently, several simulations were run to see how and if a short between windings would affect the waveforms across the L1, L2, and L3 coils.

I feel a short would most likely occur at the coil ends where they were twisted and soldered together, so that is what I have simulated here.

All combinations were tried except for the negative side, as there was little change from one to the other. Two cases only are shown below for the -'ve coil connection shorts.

Ignore the voltage probe labels shown in some of the plots as they are in error due to a glitch in the program I suspect. From top to bottom, all plots are L1, L2, and L3 respectively.

Darren

MeggerMan

Hi Darren,
Well done!
(edited)
What sort of scope are you using and what software to plot the points, I have an Owon PDS 6062 and there are no voltage scales or timebase scales?
I have a feeling that the Bin file that the scope captures is a stanard layout but I could be wrong.

Looks like L1 + L2 shorted shows the trace that Mike posted but on L1, not the motor or generator coil???
Maybe the scope shot he posted was of the trigger coil then.
I think the short was part way through the winding so the scope trace for L1 would be less pronounced.
Is it possible for you to do the same test but at 3 or 4 taps part way through the 3 windings?
Have you seen any performance improvements/degrading with any of the shorts?

Regards
Rob

z_p_e

Hi Rob.

I haven't got this motor built yet. What you see in my last post are "scope shots" of a simulation model I have been working with since day 1.

I could simulate shorts part way through the windings, but that would involve a fair bit of work, and I feel a short most likely ocurred at one or both of the ends where they were twisted and soldered.

I think if the scope shots Mike presented are worthy of consideration at all, then one can conclude that the short most likely occurred at the -'ve end of the windings, as this seems to have the least affect on the waveforms. However, L2+ shorted to L3+ also could be possible because the waveform is still more or less intact.

Darren