Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

[NerzhDishual]

Hello Zero_Point_Energy

Good questions...
I must have the measures somewhere in my documentation (perhaps jotted down on the coil itself). But exactly where? That is another question. Yes, I'm not a scientist!

I will see or measure them again and also try my "Oxymoron Motor" tomorrow.
So : more to come soon.

Best

[z_p_e]

Another possible theory as to the quick charging seen in  Mike's video:

The 47000uF capacitor is really much smaller in value. This again would point to a defective capacitor.

We were also told that after replacing the capacitor, the motor was again working. 

The way I see it, these are the variables that affect the charging rate of that capacitor:

1) capacitor value
2) inductance of coil
3) series resistance of same coil
4) speed of rotation (rpm)
5) supply voltage at which transistors can conduct
6) magnet strength
7) magnet/coil air-gap

Note: The most work done in the charging phase is right at the beginning when the cap voltage is 0V, and this work is largely if not completely furnished by the hand giving the rotor its initial spin.

I have shown that induction only at full rpm (345 rpm), will only charge that capacitor to 500mV in 3 seconds. Somehow, 3V must be reached in 3 seconds in order to match Mike's video.

I will attempt some simulations to see what the combined induction and bemf charging will do in my model.

Darren

[z_p_e]

Some interesting test results.

A circuit model was built using only 2 coils, the Main (L2), and the Trigger (L4). L1 is used for magnet induction.

The FWBR was placed across the Main coil for capacitor charging and bemf recovery.

A more detailed examination of Mike's video was performed using a video editor, and the resulting capacitor charging plot is shown in each chart for comparison.

In Chart01 and Chart02, the induction was adjusted to result in a 6V ending voltage after 50 seconds. This gave a reasonable match with the video charge plot.

The 3 tests were done as if the rotor was driven by an external motor at a constant speed, regardless of load. The idea is to test and compare the charging capability of L2 with induction only (no switching, and no DC source), induction and switching (DC source voltage is equal to cap voltage, but is buffered, hence NO LOAD on the cap), and induction and switching taking the DC source for switching directly off the capacitor, giving the cap a real load as it would see in "normal" operation of this motor.

Chart01 shows the 47000u capacitor voltage with induction only.

Chart02 shows the cap being charged by induction and any bemf that may be occurring. The cap is being buffered here, so it sees no load. The buffered cap voltage is fed to source the transistors. It is quite evident when the transistors in the video begin switching, as can be seen by the cap voltage falling off slightly.

Note that the switching/bemf does not appear to aid in charging the capacitor. In fact, the induction had to be increased by 8% to maintain the 6V end voltage. Reason? Likely because the coil is "partially shorted" for one excursion of the induced voltage, hence reducing the charging effect.

Chart03 shows the same setup as Chart02, except the capacitor is no longer being buffered, and it is sourcing the transistors directly. Note that the capacitor voltage would normally level-off as shown, but the cap voltage in the video continues to increase and appears to recover from its earlier fall-off.

What has NOT been modeled here, is the added rotor kick imparted by the Main coil once it starts switching. This would aid in charging the capacitor and sustaining rotation, but how much is unknown at the moment. Perhaps a next step will be an attempt to model this effect as well.

Darren

[NerzhDishual]

Hi tenacious, kind and sharing experimenters

@Z_P_E
Thanks for your informations and your diagrams.
You were asking:

Any idea what your SSG3 coil inductance and resistance is?

My measurements are :
L2 coil : (trigger): 4.2 ohms, 4.62 mili_h (wire diameter= 0.56 m/m (I suppose)).
L2 coils : 2.4 ohms 4.59 mili_h (wire d =0.4 m/m).
A bifilar coil. The core is made of glued welding rods 'cores'.

I have tried to have it 'self run' on a pre-charged and 'hand- opened-&-closed-switch'
47000 miro_F cap.
Guess what? It *does not* work.
It would have been too simple...

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Else_1 :
I have to make some others experiments on my non-self-working-window-mot.

Actually, as I already said, it works only on 4 vols/ 25 mili_amps.
This is not a lot of watts according to the fact that le Crouzet led is blinking and that this relay circuits is drawing some mili_amps too.

Else_2 :
Are you aware of the new Peter Lindemann DVD about "Electric Motor Secrets" :
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Review:Electric_Motor_Secrets_DVD_by_Peter_Lindemann

And also, BTW, aware of the following comments?

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Review:Electric_Motor_Secrets_DVD_by_Peter_Lindemann#More_research_should_have_been_done_before_the_DVD_was_released

Sometimes I feel a little bit fed up with all of these over-unity-COP-greater-than-one
contreversies,  skirmishs, strifes, clashs, combats, figthings, quarrels (I will not copy and paste the synonym dictionnary : http://dico.isc.cnrs.fr/dico/en/search ).

Perhaps should I better give up and hunt mussels?

Best

[z_p_e]

ND,

I see, it seems your coil is made with relatively large wire, and few turns. Most SSG motors I believe are wound using lighter wire and many many turns, creating "mega-coils".

I'll check on the video and comments you mentioned.

How are you measuring your current exactly?

Darren