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gaby de wilde

Started by gaby de wilde, February 17, 2007, 09:42:54 PM

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Rosphere

Four pictures and a video attached.  :)

Gregory

Hi gaby de wilde,

I believe this idea of yours is very innovative. I independently figured this out about a year ago and have made a few simple tests with the forces on a real (rough) wheel with real magnets. The results were interesting. When two poles faced with one, the resulting force was truly close to zero. I think it is not possible to accomplish an exact zero situation in reality, but close to zero... And unlike at a sticky spot the wheel passed it easily after a push. :)

In theory I am working on some more or less similar designs, and I think your idea is really a good way to try.

Bye,

gaby de wilde

Quote from: Rosphere on February 19, 2007, 01:58:20 PM
Four pictures and a video attached.  :)

oh wow.......

lol, now I feel guilty for joking and for explaining the idea so badly.

In a closed loop 1 wheel with 2 magnets should be enough.(image at the left)

Also, a bit of mass (flywheel) could stabilise the speed some more.

Was the size of the air gap a result of experimentation or did it just end up that way?

see? The primary magnets facing the side of the secondary do far more work as the other 2. My mistake sry.



Good luck and thanks for restoring my faith in mankind.  :D

P.S.
This does explain why I was dreaming of LEGO. ha-ha
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p.s.: when we use a magnetic field viewer and see the neutral pole zone,
       what do we actually now about this sphere/area ?

Rosphere

Quote from: gaby de wilde on February 20, 2007, 05:01:59 AM

oh wow.......

lol, now I feel guilty for joking and for explaining the idea so badly.


My actual experience in playing with this device showed me that this "push-pull" magnetic behavior has an overall "feel" of producing invisible gear teeth.

With the connecting shaft disengaged and both wheels free to move, I...

1. rotated the single magnet on the vertical axis by hand and observed the large wheel with four magnets and

2. rotated the large wheel with four magnets by hand and observed the single magnet on the vertical axis.

In both cases the free wheel spun to match the rotation of the driven wheel, almost as if four invisible, sloppy gear teeth were in play.  The connecting shaft seems redundant.  The connecting shaft has more than four sloppy teeth on it's gears, and they are visible.  These connecting teeth just smooth out the response motion of the free wheel.

As can be seen in my video, it slows to a stop when spun in either direction.  How is your replication progressing?

You might want to use better quality parts than I did.

I almost forgot to mention.  I made sure that there was some back pressure between the wheels before I slid the connecting shaft gear into place.  This had the effect of moving the wheel several degrees out from top-dead-center, as can be seen in the photos.  It did not, however, continue running.

Perhaps if you used more magnets around the perimeter, each rotated into the face of the wheel by the same degree in which they are separated upon the face of the wheel making a full 360 for 360.  Perhaps 16 separated by 22.5 degrees?

Good luck with that.   :)