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rotoverter for power generation

Started by dan, May 02, 2005, 03:57:50 PM

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esaruoho

thank you! i never meant to mislead people on posting the "kinda thereabouts" page, and will correct it for future posts :)
i hope someone is having a feast reading the recovery circuits..

Quote from: gyulasun on March 13, 2008, 08:01:18 AM
Hi Esa,
Just a small correction on your otherwise excellent contribution: the pages on extracting circuits are between pages 24-35, so some ten pages earlier than you wrote above.
Thanks,  Gyula

Mem

Quote from: Joh70 on March 13, 2008, 06:33:09 AM
Mem wrote: "Check this out guy here, then you'll see what I mean"

Hi mem, don't mix up the magician's abilities with the search for Free Energy. First is occultism. They pay whith their soul for it. Second is real nature!

Joh70, 
Do you believe what you say is true?

For a man to gain higher mastery to manipulate mater and time and space with his new gained abilitys.

That maybe called with bunch of names, such as occultism, yogic powers, magician etc? what ever the name used matters not.   

One thing for sure: True adept have no desire to demonstrate his ability, never! Perhaps young adepts are like a ?kid? needs lots of attention.

As far as the price of the gift goes?

Well, if you got the powers from the dark side of the spirit realm? You are right on Jon70!

But if you earn the rights and forces of Light (Holy Spirit) bless with many gifts I feel you are safe!
This doesn?t mean that even a rightly earned gift can?t be misused, surely it can!
Perhaps one has to have the wisdom and the discernments of the spirits before anything.

As as a free energy researcher I admit my weakness sometimes I drift into other realms
Mem>>

esaruoho

i was recently re-watching "Energy From The Vacuum Part 2" with John Bedini - and in it, at the start, is the EnergenX promotional video from 2000, where Bearden describes one of the Bedini devices  as  being made to  produce reactive power - and that then transformed into actual energy.

this seems to be exactly the conversion rpocess that needs to happen in the RotoVerter  Reactive Power Recovery Circuits that are being spoken about  quite a bit.

your thoughts on recovering Reactive Power?

bolt

The RV conversion is interesting because it converts to resonance. Tesla said something like "if it wasn't for resonance then electricity would be rather boring".

In practical RV terms the savings are really only on the light to medium load running. As the load increases the run cap has to be increased to make up for the power required.  It can save money though where you have a legitimate need for a motor. People with a pool for example run a 1hp pump motor for 8 to 12 hours a day taking like 800 watts and the motor runs so hot you cant touch it. In RV mode the speed comes up and the power drops to about 100 watts and then it runs cold saving the bearings from overheating and drying out.

When you see whats happening the coil inductance is increased by taking on more windings which allows for a smaller run cap and the supply in is shared between the phase in virtual mode.

However the loss of any type of OU is lost in the generator configuration.  Thats why Thrapp appears not to use an RV run motor but all the cap coil tweaks are done in the gene not the run motor. This is 100% opposite to what the RV crowd is doing where their gen motor is then wired to a really small inductance by parallel up the phases and set the lowest voltage setting. This must be wrong as Thrapp can prove its wrong by his clearly OU self running setup.

Thrapp clearly shows a massive cap bank on his gene but in addition the inductance looks huge too due to the size of the windings. There are similarities though. He is using an inverter which is modified to frequency and voltage and the bulb bank has another box on it too for what seems like more power factor correction. I think Thrapp describes the gene as a variable frequency generator. The trick always seems to be resonance.  Get the inductance to appear small even though in reality its large by thousands of turns and exchange it for extremely large caps to get the  C I in resonance.

The best thing about this in my mind from an experimenters point of view is that one can take ordinary motors and show excellent power savings that can do something useful. This is much better then a Bedini bicycle wheel going round thats does very little and where build standards are often really shabby and still wont do OU.

The same happens with the Newman motor. Make the inductance of the coil massive so the current is tiny and large voltages will start flowing.  The efficiency looks great but it is never recoverable to drive another motor.

If Thrapp is something to bear witness too then the OU loop trick is not in the run motor but in the gen motor. If the gen motor cant produce more electricity out then mechanical going in the OU loop is dead.


victorfolk

I know this is a stupid question - but I am having an impossible time finding the wiring for the rotoverter/3 phase motors. I have acquired some unused older GE 3 phase motors, but I cannot find anyplace showing which wire color off the motor is for what, so I am at a standstill.

Can anyone help me by just showing/telling which color wires are which on the 3 phase motors? I have got the capacitors for my variable bank and start up, but can't go farther without this simple (and probably stupid) problem being solved.

Thanks