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rotoverter for power generation

Started by dan, May 02, 2005, 03:57:50 PM

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wattsup

@steve_chow

Good work. There are some things you have to know about but I am not the best guy to give you the most recent RV techniques. There is a member here named @ashtweth_nihilisti and in my book, he is the best one to comment on present RV. I have put a post in a new thread he just opened to refer him here.

His threads starts here;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7055.msg164581#msg164581

Before doing any talking about power measurements, etc., 3-phase to single phase, his first question will most likely be, did you read a good part of the RV information that is already out there?

I will still be here but would hope that Ash can give you better information at this stage.

Regarding AC to DC, here is a photo of a big bridge rectifier I used to transfer the single phase AC output of a generator to the DC input of a DC drive motor via 24 x 12 volts batteries. You might need one but for three phase.

Here is a link that goes over phasing basics and 3-phase rectifiers if any help.
http://www.windstuffnow.com/main/3_phase_basics.htm

Geez, this is the first time I am doing a two-way thread referral. Well there is always a first time. lol

steve_chow

@wattsup

Thanks ..I will send mail  @ashtweth_nihilisti .

I do have three phase bridge rectifier unit (150 amp) which I designed for my other project....
but now  I need 10:1 transformer  to reduce the voltage 206 Volts AC  to ~ 20volts AC  then
I can run through bridge rectifier to get ~15 volts DC.

Do you know where I can buy 10:1 transformer .....

regards

Chow

steve_chow

@wattsup

Hi
I think you busy with Mylow HJ replication...
I did following test with RV setup-

Input - 120 volts 1.2 amps

Test 1-
Used three transformer   with alternator output-
transformer output (converted to AC to DC)- 16.5 volts DC 1.3 Amp/phase which means I connected three battery with three(L1,L2,L3) diff phase and all batteries are charging without any problem , running cool..
Test-2
Connect L1,L2,L3 direct to AC to DC converter..
output - 242 volts DC 1.3 amp without load...
alternator temperature- warm......
So far no sign of OU...
regards

Chow
   

ashtweth_nihilisti

Dam i forgot about this post please remind me in an EMAIL in future guys. Steve, please bring the description over to EVGRAY, we can cut and paste the solutions back here after that, but most of them are over at EVGRAY who will advise on your set up.
Please post and join here
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EVGRAY/
thx wattsup.

Just a note for beginners, note that the principle of the RV is to create VARS (reactive power) and transform them into usable watts BY THE RV'S METHOD IN THE COMPILATIONS.
If you loading it down in another way  you will need to try other things, like step up up ratio's (belt 6-1 etc) frequency driving it (flywheel) etc. But its not intended to be OU this way.

Its very hard to tune BTW, but its been done twice, in fact ask these two guys what happened when they did it.
http://panacea-bocaf.org/rvtechnology.htm

Ash
?If you create your own electricity, heating and water systems, you create your own politics. Maybe that?s what they?re afraid of.? ?? Michael Reynolds
http://www.panacea-bocaf.org
http://www.panaceauniversity.org

http://www.geocities.com/glorybangla/cqtes.htm

oouthere

Hmmmm, just seeing something on a cam means nothing.  I can easily fool people doing that with my current set-up and show a 3:1 o/u....but it's not usable.  It's like the guy with the highly expensive d/c motor saying he did....not.  If one of these guys will talk to me on the phone that states they have accomplished a loop, it'll fire my POS back up and try their way. 

Just for the record as well.  I built the self powered water pump that I'd read on this site in February.   About $90 and 8 hours later another failed project.  The science looked good to me but I was not thinking in the terms of hydraulics as is needed, at least I now understand how to evaluate these types of machines.

Also, the guy shooting a stream of water onto a paddle will never work.  Yes, it will work shortly but the energy is simply stored in the water.....nothing else.

I know I sound negative, but it's disheartening to watch replication after replication of failed ideas only to find the so called inventor either lied or was simply wrong.

Rich