rotoverter for power generation

[wattsup]

@Mem

Good idea but here are a few things to consider.

The 1" shaft simply becomes a 1" rotor with much smaller stator windings. The windngs and rotor would have to be 3 feet long or more to get the same wattage as the original generator.

Look at this alternator on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HighAmp-PMA-Permanent-Magnet-Alternator-Generator-SC12F_W0QQitemZ290146347291QQihZ019QQcategoryZ121837QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now imagine that rotor being only 1". How fast would it have to rotate to produce the same power as this alternator?

[Mem]

<<Very good point, the shaft then has be longer, sure and go a lot faster to achive the same results! I sure like to built and test this generator around 24" long shaft. I would mount the maximum posible coils around the shaft to pick the power.
This new design "may?" support metal core electromagnets for larger amp. output.
Since will need min. torque RV motor maybe able to turn it.
(I am using too many "maybes" I wish I could do the math on this.
Mehmet.>>

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hi guys,

I remember Raivo tried that PM ALT on his RV the Exact one in fact, from memory the DRAG/ Eddy currents were not good, the next generation RV is the permanent magnet ROTOR RV.

Except you have to know the math with the magnetic DRAG from the design, we have many suggestions in the RE-OU v6 compilation on PM RV.

But no one has built it yet, apparently according to hector the design can be 100% efficient , as has no slip.

[wattsup]

@ashtweth_nihilisti

Thanks for your input on that PM alt. Actually I just removed my alternator from my system to start working on my VAR project, but I must say, I was tempted by that PM Alt as a last ditch effort with an ALT. Ideas abound.

@Mem

What I was trying to say is this. Even if you put a thin rotor and long windings, or stubby rotor and fat windings, to produce an equal amount of wattage, you will still be exposed to significant drag. Although I must say the advent of having a thin long rotor seems to dictate that since the drag would be closer to the center of the shaft, it will have less overall drag on the PM, versus a wide rotor being stopped by drag that would be putting more of an anti-leverage effect on the rotation. There might be something there indeed. But you are right, this would have to be considered and workable on paper before you go through a build. Maybe search patents for long thin generators. Drag is a real drag.

[b0rg13]

is this what weve all been waiting for ?....or maybe i dont understand( im pretty good at not understand ing).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhB9rdpnyBI

what i think im seeing in its most basic description is that it takes 3x 100wbulbs of power to out-put 11x 100wbulbs of power so getting about 8x 100wbulbs of power for free?...or have i missed the point completely ?...i know some of you will prolly say go back and read all the crap and pdf's but all i get from that is a sore head...is there a way to explain this or whats going on here for simple everyday ppl who are generally kinda cluless ?( like my self).