High voltage HHO by IronHead

[ResearchingFreedom]

Yes but it is very high voltage making up for the low amps.
This Cell is extremely impressive but the builder will not release any information on it.
Very unfortunate !

In reference to the video: http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=HHxAebQoFHE

Please forgive me if this rambles.  I'm writing this while in desperate need for sleep.

I've been thinking a lot about this and I keep circling back around to the idea of a thunderstorm.  Think about what thunder is.  What causes it?  Lightning, right?  Essentially lightning causes the air to "explode" and the sound we hear is the air rushing back together much how water behaves when something penetrates the surface with force.  The water comes back together and produces a splash and so on.

I think there is something similar going on here.  I don't think thats a plasma discharge seen in the video.  I'm wondering if it could be something so simple as a modified Tesla Coil that's reacting to the material of the container, thus causing it to appear white instead of the typical blue.  Those rods look like they are going at least partially through the container and then arcing through the water.

I think there are some possibilities here.  The first is partial detonation of the hydrogen in solution.  Oddly, this might not be catastrophic and amounts to fishing with dynamite.  The force of the water imploding drives the gas out of solution.  (Probably a crazy idea).

Another consideration is the presence of the spark.  I would imagine that it induces an electromagnetic field that might sheer the H₂ molecules off of the plates.

I'm trying like mad to get the materials and a place set up to experiment.  Creating a high electric potential between two rods with the cell in the middle would be something i'd be interested in trying.

Off to bed.

Good luck with your experiments, guys.
-RF

[joemumu]

@rayco

Hi,  The video I was referring to had no balloon at all.  The pure hydrogen was coming from an industrial type tank which looked like a tank which one would use for welding containing acetylene or oxygen.  What I was wondering was what would 5 PSI coming out of a 1/4 inch tube translate to in liters/minute.

Of course I understand what you mean by "it takes as much as it needs".  This engine was idling at perhaps 800 RPM.  More would be needed to run at higher RPM, and we're not even talking about acceleration yet, but this would give a better understanding of the production of gas needed to run an engine.  Sort of a starting point for my own knowledge.

I would very much like to stay in contact with you as I will be building shortly.  I own a small machine shop with CNC mills and lathes.  I am amassing as much info and drawings as I can because I have found that doing so makes the building go much smoother.

Thanks for your reply

Alex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMj14tPiIww&feature=related


I found the video.  I was mistaken with some of the things I said about some of the parts, but you get the idea.

I guess the feeding tube or the metal tube going to the intake at the end of the plastic tube is actually 1/16 inch.  It looks almost identical to a part I quoted some time ago for a company that had a machine that would insert electronic components into circuit boards.  It would interest me to know how many liters/minute would keep up the flow of hydrogen at 5 PSI.

Check it out.  It's been around for a while

[Bio-Texas-DFW]

Subscribed... still trying to read all the way through the thread so I understand everyone properly.

I have the 316L SS and some power sources on there way, plus some other odds and ends to give this a try. I will report back later as I discover along with what I'm reading.

[rayco]

Hi everyone

   About the 5psi thing. It will do two things:

1 It will smooth out the flow of gas supplied to the engine.

2 It will cut down on foaming inside the electrolyzer.

   If you want try hypodermic needles of different sizes to get the 5psi

I tried it and it is not necessary.
If you are making that much gas, get an Impaco gas fuel carb, the propane model, and change the jet size.

Remember this is not pure hydrogen so you need to try different size jets to get it right.



Rayco

[joemumu]

@rayco

Thank you for your response.  I now understand what you are saying about the 5 PSI smoothing out the flow and reducing the foaming inside the cell.  These are added benefits.  I know that HHO under pressure is not as safe but, the difference between that and HHO at no pressure can't be all that bad.  Both will create nearly the same explosion.

Very good to mention changing the jet size change on a propane type carb.  That would be something to consider.

All this about 5 PSI came from a request from me to Ironhead to review a drawing I had in pdf format of some guy that designed a cell for a motor cycle.  His unit was under 30 PSI.  You can review it if you like on one of my previous posts.  I think it's a few pages back.

I agree with you that this is not necessary.  I was just kicking it around and thinking of trying it.  Thanks for your input rayco.  We are all learning.

Welcome to the forum Bio-Texas-DFW.  Good luck and keep the group informed on your progress.

Alex