High voltage HHO by IronHead

[IronHead]

EDIT me asap

[d3adp00l]

@ Koko I didn't think you were being negative, the disclaimer and such was more for general knowledge, I was more just saying in agreement with you that from the outside it looks like the old school math says it won't work. The numbers are quite daunting at first. But the numbers involved with water never support comparison math with other chemicals. As I am sure you and in fact most of the people involved with this thread understand. Water doesn't behave like it should, its constituant parts and bonds make it unique, which is reason number two to believe that there is something to HHO. Reason number 3 would be the fact that it already is natures power source, reason number 4 would be that God wouldn't have put so much of it here if we weren't supposed to use it (number 4: yes some people would argue about that point, but these are just my points). The second half of that would be the air around us, but we'll get there later.

[MacGyver_1rjq104]

Ok... I know what you mean but his powersupply was not providing a lot of amps, correct?  I was assuming that he was providing approx. .5 amps with high voltage.  If we are going to take the approach and assume that Meyer was indeed using only .5 amps, we have to remember that power is power.  If he is using only .5 amps then his voltage has to be extremely high.  I was reading the patient information and he even mentions in there that the circuit could be as high as 20kv.  I have a degree in Laser Technology, and I thought that his set up was a lot like a resonant laser cavity.  That is probably what gave Meyer the idea to use lasers to improve the performance.  Just a thought.

Actually Meyer had an extreme amount of amps...He was using the cell as a capacitor. To put it simple once he exceeded the dielectric constant of water all that voltage in the capacitor collapsed. That collapse of voltage well is amperage.

simple terms....

Forgot to mention;
That is the key to making all this stuff work...Thats where I'm at...And thats why I'm here too learn the rest.

I am a little confused.  I thought Stan Meyer was doing this, "Water Fracturing", without heating up the water.  Conventional Electrolysis causes the water to heat by pumping large amounts of current into the water.  According to Stan, he only needs 500 miliamps or 1/2 amp of current and what ever the voltage is.  If you watch the video, "Equinox" on you tube, you can see that what has convinced them that it is a different way of breaking down the water is the fact that the water temp didn't change.  Am I totally off base?  Thanks for any help you can give me!!!!

It all starts with these videos  I made up of a quick and dirty high voltage HHO
system to show a few people here on the forums. Well I did not think this would hijack another thread (http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1500.130.html)
completely and attract so much attention.But it did , so here we are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnIJyNmI33U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEXaNnBRPo


The HHO system is Hydrogen Oxygen production at 150F degrees 90VDC.This system is also pulsed. We will talk about that later as each build requires a different pulse to work proper. It is my belief that high voltage low current is required to break the bond of Hydrogen and Oxygen. At least on this level of production.This is a capacitor ,treat it like one when working with these voltages that can discharge rapidly.

It must stay at this temp (150F) or it will  steam very fast so it must be cooled with radiator. This is why I am running the bench system for a shot time . If I ran it longer you would see steam billow " A hell of a lot in a very short time" from the canister.

So what you are seeing is a dirty quick build bench top version of the system I run in my vehicle.. I will soon be removing this system from my vehicle ,to remove and replace the Silver with Nitronic as the Silver is breaking down .
Do not use Tungsten in this system on the oxygen side, It will dissolve.
316 stainless is good ,and Nitronic Stainless is preferred method.

People are asking me how much gas is produced .I am no scientist I build what works for a given application. So the system in my vehicle produces enough for what I need it to do , get more bang for the buck on a big block 454ci engine.

BTW "Moab"great job you are on the top of my list of just do-ers . The "Just done it" list as it were.
You did it with out a zillion question about this that and the other scientific blah blah. Keep up the good builds

This is a very complicated system to run in a vehicle.
If you want something easy and that is proven ,buy a MagDrive


Just Build It
just do it!

IronHead

[alexleigh]

This is for both High and Low voltage
Next will learn the effects of pulsing. and you can put anything in your car any time you want. But I do not recommend it at this point in time.

You will need a pulse source that will do from 0 - 50+ khz and 0-100% duty cycle to start out.
This gen must sweep in real time. You are going to send a vibration to the plates in the water and resonate the water in the tub. So there is no set number for this Frequency as all things will resonate differently . So you will need to sweep the  Frequencies  applied to the plates until you hit the the target resonance of the water in this cell. You will know as the HHO will rip off those plates like you never saw before.

Vibration is the source , Resonance is the  outcome of the applied source .

If you do not have this equipment or do not know how to use such equipment  ,Speak Up and I will led you to an easyer way.

There is going to be a gradient in the resonant  magnetic field . Pay attention to every plate and how they reacted . How much HHO is extracted from the the water in the gradient. Take note

This discussion starts now

Yes, sir!
I need your help. After reading your messge, I would like to test on pluse DC system first. However, what kind of pluse gen. is good for me? Is that the one you posted on reply #547. what thing should I pay attention? Thanks for your guidance!

[payson]

I have some questions about the Brute Force HHO Starter referenced on page 14 of this thread.

Is it basically a positive plate, seven neutrals, one negative, seven neutrals, then one positive, powered with 36 volts?

Any high frequency pulsing?