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High voltage HHO by IronHead

Started by IronHead, March 08, 2007, 06:19:16 PM

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IronHead

OK, first off I did the pictures so people could see the cell and its makeup .
You can clearly count the 17 plates and 16 cell cavities .
The neutral plates are about 2x2 inches the anode and cathode are 2" by 3"
the over all stack length is about 4 ".Sorry about typing out the dimension in the wrong order.

I am not to sure about this deal with a cell only producing to a certain point of voltage and nothing more above the voltage but heat.Amps create heat as far as I know. I clearly have used voltages far above plate count or surface area  ,and have had far more HHO produced along with heat.Take look at the NS-T sinlge 1/4 inch rod cell and compare to the 17 plate series cell. For me heat is not a problem as I cool the larger cells . If I get more HHO you beat I will deal with excess heat.I don't test HHO by seeing how fast it fills in a bottle (Liters per Min) This test can lie as you do not know the ratio of one gas to another or if it is even HHO . I test HHO in a piston engine. Also alittle bit of steam slows the burn time or the time it takes for atoms to recombined as it were. A perfect ratio cell is great and all with little heat and such ,but will it run a car without having to toe a trailer size cell .

The resign for these very small cell test is to build as small as possible  right down to the size of an injector. The higher the voltage the more powerful the electromagnetic field that is pulling the 2H2 and O2 apart I believe.

What kind of pulsing do we want to help in the process?

Where does the electromagnetic field come into play?

Once we pull the atoms apart then what?

We are only dealing with one type of Hydrogen
here ,is there another type that we should think about?

How do we stop 2H2 and O2 from recombining in the cell?

How do we raise the octane  which will slow the burn time
for use in an automotive engine and run full HHO  no other fuel?

What do we know about liberated electrons?

I will be covering all of this in the near future.
IronHead




IronHead


Moab

Yes. to all of that. I-H. But Our current ICEs are not made to run HHO. So isnt it better to use the HHO H2o2 as a catalyst to make a Full burn of the carbon in the fuel Gasiline/Diesel our ICEs are designed to run on.Please be patient I have much to learn. Question,, I know HHO helps but to run the motor on pure HHO some changes to the basic ICE are needed? maybe a rotary/ Wankel engine would give better HP-fuel ratio than a conventional ICE. Ive always wanted to play with a rotary engine ;D I have herd it said the wankel will run on just about any fuel. HHO would be a fun way to test that theory. Far from Cell design i know. Sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wankel_engine

IronHead

Mazda rotary engine is the same . Buy one and test it out.

"bornman88" your doing a Mazda  right?
How is the new cell material search going?

But the question is can we tailor HHO to burn like gasoline or LP and the answer is yes , yes we can. We can even get it to burn as slow as Diesel fuel with the proper inert gas mix.

For now lets just get it into the engine as a fuel enhancer . One thing at a time.
Then we can talk about using inert gases from the exhaust to slow the burn for
this fuel enhancer to burn the fuels together. This is only one way to slow the burn of the HHO gas by putting an inert gas between the atoms will slow there bonding in the combustion engine. Gasoline will not do this as it is a liquid and the HHO burns off before the gasoline does mixing more water in with the gasoline before it even has a chance to burn. The idea is to inject inert gas into the HHO mix before it goes into the cylinder chamber. This raises the octane closer to that of Gasoline.

If you have a cell in a car and want to do this ,Post it.

One day you might find yourself turning off the gasoline to that engine if you evolve the cell to that point. It can and has happened.

Arabs you can pay me now or kill me later,
it does not matter. Because I am about to show it all
in the next coming weeks.
IronHead

Single cylinder Injector prototype based on NS-T and photon light emitter.
Liquid cooled.
And here is a little piece of what Stanley has to say about an HHO injector.
http://waterpoweredcar.com/pdf.files/section6.pdf




Moab

Sir yes sir! now if i only knew how it worked and how to build it. I dont know if i can wait a few weeks. Thanks for tha PIC!!