new magnetic motor goes 2000 rpm without load 1000 rpm with load

[Ergo]

Just read his lousy "reports" within this thread that is lacking all basic technical understanding.
And how do you explain making a business plan based on a OU device long before having invented
the abolutely neccesary OU device that nobody else have been able to invent? It doesn't add up.
It's like having a geenie in a bottle giving them the "impossible OU" device on demand.

If they instead had stumbled upon the solution to an OU device, continued to develop it until proven
and certified overunity by an independent lab or university and then formed a company, I would
of course believe them. Or perhaps I still need to see a public show where people can take their
own measurements on the fly without limitations.

Until further proof I'm totaly sure time will tell them being another line up of scammers.

[kensiko]

Yes that is true, and this is why I count on the Green living show to view his system.

You see, Richard, this is very important for you to be there. If you are not, all hopes will be lost.

[magnacoaster]

today i have spoken with the govenment here in canada we are now a green light to use the solar cell as the input energy this means we can get grid units out and the end user can get .042 per kwh as for the green show we are in talks with them now as well as a EV project.

Ben Waballs  how is vancouver ?

you wanted so bad to move there all the time you were here i hope now that got your wish it made you happy ! 
i know i miss having some one get me a coffee every day but hey i can go to tims now myself.
are you living with your folks still ? or that cool little hot artist chick that you spent xmas with ?
judy and andrew are they still in your life ?  and did you ever get your cats from judy ?
i know you were hatching a plan to have some one catnap them did it all work out ?


Richard

[FunkyJive]

I await the outcome from the "Green Show" with interest, as before that it's impossible to claim or counter-claim - despite the considerable wealth of knowledge in science that we collectively possess.

However, I would agree that any business proposition based on un-proven technology and highly-questionable patentability is a non-starter. It would first be absolutely essential to demonstrate to a patent examiner that such a device is novel and new, and not prior art as detailed in any other invention in history. Citing similar ideas that may have been proven and published by Tesla, Faraday, Bedini, Bearden, or by any other scientist in any journal, would threaten to critically undermine the novelty claims in any such patent.

Even with a provisional application and evidenced novelty, a massive leap of faith on the part of an investor would be necessary to even support prosecution of a patent to full PCT - as the business plan suggests would be required. For a few speculative high-risk investors this may be achievable - but only with conclusive and independently-verifiable evidence of over-unity - without exception.

However, amongst the MANY searching questions, any investor would also be asking "Am I sufficiently sure that this invention is novel and new, and what will it cost to sustain protection of the invention and my investment"?

Any patent - even a full PCT, is subject to legal challenge at any time following its grant - by any individual or company anywhere in the world, possibly looking to safeguard vested interests in similar technologies (or even fosssil fuel  ). Defending ones-self in the courts would most definitely become a crippling expense, and often the only motive for such a challenge. There is insurance that one can obtain to defend patent challenge, though it's rather difficult to anticipate how insurers would assess risk - and the resulting costs are likely to be extremely high, if obtainable at-all.

Even if all were proven and things are working just great, there are other questions that arise such as "Is this the best and most cost-effective way to achieve this result"? or "Is this the only way to achieve free energy"?

Although the cost of any high-priced device could be justified from a cost-savings perspective, don't forget the inevitable global competition in the marketplace - with only patent protection and/or registered designs to deter the manufacture of lower-cost domestically-accessible products. Also, from a "market value" perspective, a clever ground-breaking design that achieves over-unity would not automatically win the day against a less-controversial "Free Energy" device that efficiently derives energy from appreciable available sources that a sceptical market could more readily accept. Such an example would be the Tesla approach, reportedly developing huge amounts of energy from solar disturbances in the Earth's field - operating with no moving parts and offering market opportunities in the manufacture of a small, solid-state "Control box". I have seen reports of successful implementations of such technology, with one notable example yielding between 5kW and 7kW (night/day variable) power from just 82ft of wire stretched between two poles!  Furthermore, with high market demand, how much would the control boards for such units cost to manufacture in China or eastern Europe for example, and how quickly could an awaiting market be flooded with such products?

Notwithstanding the added need of safety certification and type-approvals, my considered approach would therefore be to grow such a business gradually if necessary, investing personally in the first unit(s) and then re-invest the capital to grow the business as sales mature to evidence demand. If demand out-strips supply and available resource, you would then have an excellent case to present to an investor (or bank for an immediate bridging loan) for floating capital, based on informed projections from demonstrable business and market demand.

With considerable experience in patenting and marketing myself (with a mid-90's PCT to my name, and enough successful and failed attempts to draw plenty of experience and wisdom from), I just cannot believe that ventures of this kind are compatible with a "Big Bang" model to investment and growth proposed in the publicised business plan.


That said, I would dearly love to see any such invention prove conclusively, once and for all, that over-unity is indeed possible. I would admit to a leaning in this direction, though remain open and objective to either of the two possible outcomes.

With the benefit of doubt in the current project I would say "Good luck Magnacoaster", and don't miss that show !!!   


All the best,

FunkyJive

[supersam]

at@all

just hide and watch, he will not make toronto!

lol,
sam

ps:good luck MAGNA!