OverUnity prize money 15825 US$ total until now

[Nemesiswes]

Hey I have a design for a overunity device, I have been working on it for about three years and now all i want from it if it where to work is some money so i dont have to work,lol, and recognition for the one making it and so far i have showed it looks very very plausibe and yet so simple, I am only 17 and no job and high school, so that's why i havent been able to build but how would I be able to protect it if i did put it on here for the world to see so that somebody doesnt steal it.

P.S I really really want to put it on here NOW but i'm afraid all that hard work could go to waste by having someone with money patent it and then take credit for it. any help would be really great

[hartiberlin]

@Nemesiswes and @kinggeorge and All,
the design must be posted prior to shipping the 3 prototype units to this category:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/board,77.0.html
as a new thread with best a ZIP file containing all the building instructions
and a parts list.
So everyone will know, that you are the inventor and this way it is already all
put out into the open source public domain, so nobody else can steal it or
patent it.
Then you need to ship the 3 prototype units and other people can already build
them for themself and also will report , how their independant replications will
work all over the world.

After we have tested the 3 prototypes and a positive test is the result
you will be anounced as the winner of the prize
and we will spread this all over the world with "spamming"
the news services and news releases, etc....

We will then ask all hobbyist who are participating in this forum
to build their own devices from it then ask them to donate
some money to the inventor, so he can still collect more money.
As the inventor will thus get very famous very soon he will
be featured all over the world in all TV stations and
advertisement contracts etc... can follow up.,
so he can make a lot of money without needing any patent
or any license models...

Also we can ask, that every person, who saves money
through this invention should donate at least one
month of his utility bill to the inventor, if the invention enables
him to get of the grid or saves him money on a monthly basis...

Thus money for the inventor will flow for many years to come,
all without any patents...
Much easier...!

So, who is the first one, who will publish his real overunity design ?
Good luck !
Best regards, Stefan.

[shruggedatlas]

The most common criticism I have heard of James Randi is that his challenge is self promotion.
Well, of course it is. 

You are absolutely right.

But what is the catch ?
If you want to get the 1 Million dollars, what contract do you have to sign then
They probably get all the rights onto your invention and might lock it up in a safe...

The catch is you have to demonstrate something in violation to the known laws of physics, which is very very very (did I say "very'?) hard to do, which is why no one has been able to do it.  There is nothing in the application that says JREF gets any rights to anything you do.  Bear in mind that the challenge is really aimed at the practitioners of the paranormal, such as psychics, telekinesists, et al., and so the concept of claiming rights to something like that is just inapplicable, and I doubt the thought has even crossed anyone's mind.  I am just proposing that the challenge will probably be accepted against a perpetual motion machine, because if valid, it would certainly defy the known laws of physics.  (You would make the claim "I can extract energy from thin air with the use of this device, which does not use any additional fuel, can run 24/7 endlessly, and so forth and so on. . . ")

Harti, I hold the highest opinion of you, since you have put in all the hard work to keep these boards running, but I think you have been reading too many of the conspiracy theory, "CIA and Big Oil are out to get me" posts.

[hartiberlin]

Maybe we should define some categories
for different devices,
like:
1. pure mechanical devices like pure permanent magnet motors which put out pure mechanical power
2. solid state electronic devices which put out pure electric power output only
3.mixed mechanical and electronic devices like battery charging overunity pulse motors,
which put out mechanical power and electrical power...

So maybe we can then define a threshold level of output power and production
costs that these devices should fullfill to be able to get the OverUnity prize money ?

What would you suggest ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.

[Humbugger]

@Stefan

At one time I recall you said the rules for winning the prize would be set forth in a pdf document.  It seems the prize has kept climbing and that is good, but every other post seems to involve a new suggestion or consideration for the rules.

I am interested in contributing to the prize fund but only if the rules are well defined and finalized and published in one document and openly made available to all participants and contributors.  Right now it doesn't seem like that is the case and we have a moving target with bits and pieces spread over this thread and further discussion of changes every day. 

Do you still have a plan to solidify the rules and publish them in a pdf? 

Maybe it is too soon yet and the issues need more discussion?  Seems still very fluid in definition...a dangerous situation for any of us offering to contribute prize money or considering it!   I have already pointed out one big loophole which you have agreed with and corrected.  It's not easy to come up with a fair set of rules, I know.  Especially one that pleases everyone yet is still tough enough to avoid giving the prize away for nothing really useful.

I would hate to promise a nice contribution and then have to withdraw it if the rules were changed later or to lose my money because of a legal challenge due to badly-defined rules!   What do you think? 

Humbugger